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    Seriously?


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    costco?

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    That's what flickr said.

    Those are actual trays, with only 1 person in sight among 16 MEI edgers.

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    yup, looks like the sd location.

    believe it or not, they run those machines 20-22 hours per day

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    and how much do those beauties cost ? (wiping up the drool as I type)

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    with automation and the new block less upgrade, around $300k/ea

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    You'd think Id have a quicker turn around time then 2 weeks with this kind of technology in the world. It's terrible that every mdiecaid job in the state goes to one guy in a lab that's dimly lit by a dangling light buld and he uses crimpers and a nail file to cut lenses down.

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    The Bisphera can edge 400 pairs per 8 hour shift.......I don't think Cotsco has that many jobs.
    I see 14 units x 400 = 5,600 pairs per 8 hour shift........
    To me this looks more like the MEI wharehouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonah View Post
    The Bisphera can edge 400 pairs per 8 hour shift.......I don't think Cotsco has that many jobs.
    I see 14 units x 400 = 5,600 pairs per 8 hour shift........
    To me this looks more like the MEI wharehouse.
    Costco does about 4000-5000 jobs per day per lab.

    400 jobs per 8 hours is pushing it, that would only be if all your jobs are sv, low power poly, no ar, no grooving, etc..

    250 is a more realistic number.

    and costco definitely has that many jobs,
    their two labs are open 24/7, and only close for costco holidays.
    If they were ranked in the independent lab rankings, each lab would be in the top 10 in the nation in terms of volume

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonah View Post
    The Bisphera can edge 400 pairs per 8 hour shift.......I don't think Cotsco has that many jobs.
    I see 14 units x 400 = 5,600 pairs per 8 hour shift........
    To me this looks more like the MEI wharehouse.
    +1. I count 15 at 750 JPH and 22 hours per day operation = 16,500. Definitely not a 'real' set up cutting jobs - looks more like a demo/storage/training facility.

    The largest lab in the world by daily volume is in Thailand and processes 24,000 JPD (uncuts mostly) in a 24 hour time span and is global volume. No company or single lab facility in North America has that kind of E&A volume per day.

    Looks very impressive though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lab Insight View Post
    +1. I count 15 at 750 JPH and 22 hours per day operation = 16,500. Definitely not a 'real' set up cutting jobs - looks more like a demo/storage/training facility.
    lol, it's real. I've actually seen it in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml43 View Post
    lol, it's real. I've actually seen it in person.
    Must be Costco or Wally World then? Does VSP or Davis have a facility like that? That's a major investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lab Insight View Post
    Must be Costco or Wally World then? Does VSP or Davis have a facility like that? That's a major investment.
    read above, that is costco's san diego lab.

    each VSPone is about 1/10th the size of one of costco lab.

    as for davis, I've personally never seen their lab, but I'd imagine it's similar to eyemed's lab, which is on par with vspone

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml43 View Post
    read above, that is costco's san diego lab.

    each VSPone is about 1/10th the size of one of costco lab.

    as for davis, I've personally never seen their lab, but I'd imagine it's similar to eyemed's lab, which is on par with vspone

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    My apologies, missed that part. Hard to imagine there are that many consumers flocking to Costco for their eyewear. Other than cheap price, Costco is no different. Seems to be some very loyal members out there.

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    costco has about 600-650 warehouses in the united states, I believe about 500 have opticals

    Each location does about $4k-$10k per day, they open 7 days a week, and only close on major holiday's

    With an average price of $130 for poly sv, and $200 for poly PAL, you can easily do the math on where the volume comes from.

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    Those prices for poly are nothing special, I always thought Costco would be cheaper than that. I can do a digital Pal for those prices, not my best but I can do it.

    Hey Ml43, is that lab always a no mans land like that when you were there?

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    Claustrophobics need not apply. Even with the windows I'd go NUTS working in that small blue box all day!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallboy View Post
    Those prices for poly are nothing special, I always thought Costco would be cheaper than that. I can do a digital Pal for those prices, not my best but I can do it.

    Hey Ml43, is that lab always a no mans land like that when you were there?
    Those prices are including a frame ;)

    in the edging department, yes,
    other departments, no way.

    They employ about 500-550 people per lab, 80% are full time.

    each department(receiving, service, stock, surfacing , coating, mounting/final, shipping)
    has at least two managers and 3-4 supervisors.


    Remember, that picture is only about 1/5 of the lab.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    Claustrophobics need not apply. Even with the windows I'd go NUTS working in that small blue box all day!!!
    lol, I assume that's a witty joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml43 View Post
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    I'll say this for VSP: They over man their labs. Plenty of employees to take care of all those jobs pictured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    Claustrophobics need not apply. Even with the windows I'd go NUTS working in that small blue box all day!!!
    I never knew there was room to get INSIDE the box. Hmmm...

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    I'm kidding. It's all automated.

    Do I recall correctly that the blank being placed in the tray is the only time the lens is touched until surfacing is completed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    I'm kidding. It's all automated.

    Do I recall correctly that the blank being placed in the tray is the only time the lens is touched until surfacing is completed?
    for digital surfacing, yes, conventional, no.

    for now, only pals are processed digitally. over all as a lab, they run 60% automation including digital surfacing and edging.

    they also deblock and load the coaters manually at every stage.

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    Thanks ml. The machines in the picture are strictly digital. No?

    Is the day coming when all jobs will be processed digitally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    Thanks ml. The machines in the picture are strictly digital. No?

    Is the day coming when all jobs will be processed digitally?
    Yes. Especially glass.

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