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    Confused you must provide a copy of the prescription ................................


    Quote Originally Posted by New York State

    If a patient wants to fill her prescription on-line or at another optical shop, am I required to provide a copy of her prescription?




    Yes, according to Education Law and Regulations you must provide a copy of the prescription. Section 29.1(b)(7) of the Regents Rules state that it is unprofessional conduct for a licensee to fail to make available to a patient or client, upon request, copies of documents in the possession or under the control of the licensee which have been prepared and paid for by the patient or client.

    see all of it: -----> http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/od/odfaq.htm

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    this freaking fool should loose his or her license for asking such a dumb a$$ question
    Paul:cheers:

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    If the prescription is valid and they have paid for the examination, then you must give them a copy of their rx, regardless if they purchase the glasses in your office or proceed to go elsewhere. Practices that essentially "force" patients to purchase a set of eyewear from their office in order to obtain a copy of their rx need to be smacked in the shins with a tire iron....repeatedly.

    And I agree with ziggy, the mere fact that you have to ask this question makes me question your experience and your business practices if you are withholding prescriptions strictly because the patient refuses to buy anything from you. Either update your product based on the cliental you have or find a different career path....Wal-Mart is always looking for greeters during the holiday season

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    Guys its a FAQ not an actual question being asked.

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    WORSE YET!! There must be lots of fools!
    Quote Originally Posted by Tallboy View Post
    Guys its a FAQ not an actual question being asked.

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    Is this a question? A Statement? A bot post? Spam? Incitement post?

    Chris, Your opinion on the matter is needed, 5th world countries can Google, they're still working on their reading minds skills so a comment to go with the copy and paste seems appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braheem24 View Post
    Is this a question? A Statement? A bot post? Spam? Incitement post?

    Chris, Your opinion on the matter is needed, 5th world countries can Google, they're still working on their reading minds skills so a comment to go with the copy and paste seems appropriate.
    I believe he's stating the fact that, if you sell a pair of glasses to someone.

    What you sold, the measurements you've taken, and their actual Rx must be given to the patient/customer upon request.

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    Blue Jumper This theme has been beaten to death ............................

    Quote Originally Posted by braheem24 View Post

    Is this a question? A Statement? A bot post? Spam? Incitement post?

    Chris, Your opinion on the matter is needed, 5th world countries can Google, they're still working on their reading minds skills so a comment to go with the copy and paste seems appropriate.


    braheem24...............we all can Google and find a better, cleaner and worthwhile, or valuable explanation, than set it up and type it ourselves like these thousands of one liner posts we mostly see here.

    This theme has been beaten to death on OptiBoard over the years, specially since the on-line optical s have become more visible through the loud mouth tactics by "Coastal" and their takeover by Essilor.

    So it was a statement I could have written myself but it would not have looked as good. It is not a spam, it is intended to make a reader think about it.

    If a prescription is requested by a customer it is because he/she wants to do the purchase somewhere else, most probably to make a purchase at a less expensive price.

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    The law below that has been "beaten to death" on Optiboard? Does the NY law shed any new light?



    FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION
    PART 456--OPHTHALMIC PRACTICE RULES--


    Sec. 456.2 Separation of examination and dispensing.

    It is an unfair act or practice for an ophthalmologist or optometrist to:

    (a) Fail to provide to the patient one copy of the patient's prescription immediately after the eye examination is completed.

    Provided: An ophthalmologist or optometrist may refuse to give the patient a copy of the patient's prescription until the patient has paid for the eye examination, but only if that ophthalmologist or optometrist would have required immediate payment from that patient had the examination revealed that no ophthalmic goods were required;

    (b) Condition the availability of an eye examination to any person on a requirement that the patient agree to purchase any ophthalmic goods from the ophthalmologist or optometrist;

    (c) Charge the patient any fee in addition to the ophthalmologist's or optometrist's examination fee as a condition to releasing the prescription to the patient. Provided: An ophthalmologist or optometrist may charge an additional fee for verifying ophthalmic goods dispensed by another seller when the additional fee is imposed at the time the verification is performed; or

    (d) Place on the prescription, or require the patient to sign, or deliver to the patient a form or notice waiving or disclaiming the liability or responsibility of the ophthalmologist or optometrist for the accuracy of the eye examination or the accuracy of the ophthalmic goods and services dispensed by another seller.

    Revised as of January 1, 1999]
    From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
    [CITE: 16CFR456.2]
    [Page 453]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ryser View Post
    This theme has been beaten to death on OptiBoard over the years, specially since the on-line optical s have become more visible through the loud mouth tactics by "Coastal" and their takeover by Essilor.
    If it has been beaten to death, then perhaps, in death, enough should be enough, or are such themes always going to be resurrected and re-beaten over and over again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ryser View Post



    Yes, according to Education Law and Regulations you must provide a copy of the prescription. Section 29.1(b)(7) of the Regents Rules state that it is unprofessional conduct for a licensee to fail to make available to a patient or client, upon request, copies of documents in the possession or under the control of the licensee which have been prepared and paid for by the patient or client.

    see all of it: -----> http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/od/odfaq.htm
    In N.Y. the prescriber has to make the spectacle and/or contact lens Rx available to the patient. While that is a mandate, there is another controversial question. NY licensed opticians are allowed to copy Rxs. They may not know how old they are, or even it the Rx is actually for that patient. Can the patient request a copy of the copied Rx? I've had that happen. Patients coming in with their old glasses asking me to "read" them for the Rx and PD... and please also write it down on an Rx pad. I will read them, but I cannot put it down legally on an Rx pad - it's outside my scope of practice. We suggest that they return to the original prescriber in order to avoid errors.
    Lost and confused in an optical wonderland!

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    Blue Jumper The law below that has been "beaten to death" .........................

    Quote Originally Posted by braheem24

    The law below that has been "beaten to death" on Optiboard? Does the NY law shed any new light?

    If you look a my post I wrote about the theme, not any particular law.The opticians and optometrists will have considerable increases in the future for demands for a copy of the Rx. That is due to continued heavy advertising for heavily discounted glasses of the on-line optical s of which more and more are popping up.

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    Does the above demark any separation between the prescribing doctor, and the dispensary? And are you stating that the PD or any other POW associated measurements are part of said SRx? If the optician makes these, is this or is this not part of a given pt's record? How does HIPAA relate to vertex, and panto for example? In a secondary, unconnected, unaffiliated office from the original prescribing doctor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ryser View Post
    That is due to continued heavy advertising for heavily discounted glasses of the on-line optical s of which more and more are popping up.
    Chris, your online eyeglass traffic stats and stock movement posts are the closest thing I see to online advertising. When the sky falls, I make sure to come back here and say you told me so.

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    Redhot Jumper That would make the optician the owner ............................

    Quote Originally Posted by Uilleann View Post


    If the optician makes these, is this or is this not part of a given pt's record? How does HIPAA relate to vertex, and panto for example? In a secondary, unconnected, unaffiliated office from the original prescribing doctor?

    That is a very interesting point. One could assume that if the refracting and Rx issuing doctor does not mark these points above his/her signature it would not be part of it.

    That would make the optician the owner of that technical information that has been included in the selling price of his glasses sold to the customer.
    Would it not be again the property of the client as he paid for it ?

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