Why Isn't There A........

[Jacqui]

Why isn't there an i-phone or Android app that will calculate what the digital lenses should read in the O.D.'s or opticians lensometer??

[erichwmack]

My thoughts would be that each digital lens designs computes a compensated RX from a proprietary or specific algorithm. So the app would need to have each lens designs algorithm to work. I could be wrong though, it still early in the morning.

[RT]

According to ANSI Z80.1-2010, section 10.1.1, compensated Rx values must be supplied on the package of the completed spectacle or in an accompanying document if applicable. So a US lab that indicates compliance with ANSI Z80.1 should be printing it with each job.

[Jacqui]

My thoughts would be that each digital lens designs computes a compensated RX from a proprietary or specific algorithm. So the app would need to have each lens designs algorithm to work. I could be wrong though, it still early in the morning.

It should be close enough to the same to work. It's only compensation for vertex, panto and dihedral angles.

[Barry Santini]

If the lab order is a match to your intent, don't EVER fail a compensated lens just because it doesn't vet when you apply ANSI with YOUR lensmeter, whatever type you use. Dispense and observe.

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[Jacqui]

According to ANSI Z80.1-2010, section 10.1.1, compensated Rx values must be supplied on the package of the completed spectacle or in an accompanying document if applicable. So a US lab that indicates compliance with ANSI Z80.1 should be printing it with each job.

Many times it is missing or very hard to read

[himmeroo]

I think the lab just reads what they end up and print that out as the compensated RX

[standarduck]

I think the lab just reads what they end up and print that out as the compensated RX

I've always had this at the back of my mind too!

[FL-Opt]

Why isn't there an i-phone or Android app that will calculate what the digital lenses should read in the O.D.'s or opticians lensometer??

Darryl Meister developed a computer program that will calculate it. See the thread titled: Rx Compensator v2.6 (International friendly) Of course, there will always be a little variation based on the individual lens company's proprietary software.

[MakeOptics]

How much would you pay for such an app? If the price is right I'll have one in the android store tommorow.

[Jacqui]

How much would you pay for such an app? If the price is right I'll have one in the android store tommorow.

Should be a freebie for OBers

[Fezz]

Should be a freebie for OBers

Freebie? For Optiboarders? Who else would use it?

Why?

Why do some of us think that everything should be free?

[Jacqui]

Freebie? For Optiboarders? Who else would use it?

Why?

Why do some of us think that everything should be free?

Already is free, it's on Opticampus. You should use this as the other one has been deleted Spectacle Optics v2.0 Beta NEW VERSION!:

[Jacqui]

Another reason for wanting this is that it would be a nice double check on the lab. How many times are Rxs entered wrong, or verified wrong?? This would give us a way to stop problems before we have an unhappy customer.

[Pogu]

How much would you pay for such an app? If the price is right I'll have one in the android store tommorow.

$4-$15 depending on the amount of features and whether or not is has ads.

[MakeOptics]

Another reason for wanting this is that it would be a nice double check on the lab. How many times are Rxs entered wrong, or verified wrong?? This would give us a way to stop problems before we have an unhappy customer.

Sounds like it could be of some value to you, but not monetarily. A way to get the exact app your looking for for free is to take a course on computer programming (do JAVA as it's going to be relevant to Android development), then take a course on mobile app development. That's what I did and now it's FREE when I want things like this. About a year ago I was interested in providing short tutorials on making things for our industry but the reception here was lack luster, not because I wanted to charge MONEY for it, but since I thought I would vet the people I would let access it. The overwhelming majority thought they were not going to make the cut, I find that interesting since this is a place where the cream of the crop come to. Anyway good luck and you can always hit the opticampus servers from your cell phone if a tower is available and wait for your POST form data to hit the opticampus servers and wait for the HTTP response back.

Hey Fezz thanks for seeing the irony my friend.

[MakeOptics]

$4-$15 depending on the amount of features and whether or not is has ads.

Do you have Android? Do you know how to side load an app? The reason I ask is I'll make it for you for free and e-mail the package if you promise not to share it.

I'll include a progressive lens listing and layout chart.

[Pogu]

Yep, and I'd love to help!

[CCGREEN]

............... if you promise not to share it........

Public forum.......last place a request like that should be made. Bahahaaa. Belly hurts now.

[MakeOptics]

Public forum.......last place a request like that should be made. Bahahaaa. Belly hurts now.

An individual asks for a simple program, that I offer to make in a day or 2. I throw in additional functionality. I do have a way of tracking how many installs there are and if he is impressed by the 2 modules, which quite frankly are the simplest modules in my personal version then it would be in his best interest not to share if I request.

I am offering it for free because he values it, to those that don't value knowledge they lose absolutely nothing in our transaction.

[MakeOptics]

Yep, and I'd love to help!

Pogu, check your e-mail as delivered as promised with an additional module that I think you may find helpful. The PAL module allows you to look up I think it was 300+ PALs to see if they come in glass, cr, trivex, mid, hi-1.6, hi-1.67, etc. It also shouws you availability in clear, photochromic, or polarized. If you press the eye button on the right it will take you to the layout chart just use the increase or decrease sizing buttons to align the reference marks on your lens and the rest should layout accurately. In the future I will try to have it save state so you only would need to resize once. My version of the App has contact lens features as well and a few other calculators that I regularly use. I also have a PD measuring device that utilizes the camera and a virtual frame system on my version. I regularly read threads here and think of things to add to my phone or handheld computer. I have debated porting Darryl's entire spec optics program over to android, it would take a little work, but the phones of today have the processing power and would make for a very useful tool.

[Jacqui]

Sounds like it could be of some value to you, but not monetarily. A way to get the exact app your looking for for free is to take a course on computer programming (do JAVA as it's going to be relevant to Android development), then take a course on mobile app development. That's what I did and now it's FREE when I want things like this. About a year ago I was interested in providing short tutorials on making things for our industry but the reception here was lack luster, not because I wanted to charge MONEY for it, but since I thought I would vet the people I would let access it. The overwhelming majority thought they were not going to make the cut, I find that interesting since this is a place where the cream of the crop come to. Anyway good luck and you can always hit the opticampus servers from your cell phone if a tower is available and wait for your POST form data to hit the opticampus servers and wait for the HTTP response back.

Hey Fezz thanks for seeing the irony my friend.

I started programming in the early 80's with Basic and Cobol, currently using mostly C++, Java and Python. I am writing one myself, but it will be free.

[standarduck]

Making your own programs doesn't sound free to me.

What about your time?

[MakeOptics]

I started programming in the early 80's with Basic and Cobol, currently using mostly C++, Java and Python. I am writing one myself, but it will be free.

With C++ and Java under your belt you should be there in no time, good luck.

[MakeOptics]

According to ANSI Z80.1-2010, section 10.1.1, compensated Rx values must be supplied on the package of the completed spectacle or in an accompanying document if applicable. So a US lab that indicates compliance with ANSI Z80.1 should be printing it with each job.

I thought about incorporating ANSI, having the program add +/- tolerances in sph cyl and axis and then de-compensating the multiple Rx's to come up with an range of correct prescriptions that may have been ordered for that blind neutralize job, but thought it unnecessarily complicated.