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    Transitions 7 Reviews?

    I always hated Transitions until Transitions VI came out. To my mind, that was the first iteration that got light enough, got dark enough, and lightened quickly enough to merit use. Now in the past year or so we've had the massively hyped but massively underperforming Vantage and now Generation 7.

    We've seen exactly one pair of 7s in our office; in fact, I'm wearing them right now. My initial impressions are far less than positive. They darken very quickly and I like the color, but, much like Vantage, they take much too long to fade. It seems like Transitions has taken a couple steps backward in this recent iteration. Is anyone having success with this product? I prefer the old model (or PhotoFusion).
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    They seem more reactive outside and I like the true grey color. I agree with you that they take too long to fade back. Have you had a chance to see the brown yet? We have had two pair come through and the color is so much better!
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    Same except the brown actually looks almost brown.

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    I actually liked the old Transitions greyish brown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angehamm View Post
    i actually liked the old transitions greyish brown.
    +1!

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    I actually like the new signature better than VI. I also liked Vantage though. We have been selling a lot of signature and the customer feedback has been positive so far. The rep mentioned that signature has some HEV blue light blocking as well. I have not seen the actual data on that but it seems that makes it a big + as well. I imagine the brown is better than the grey at HEV blue blocking

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    Do you think that the Transitions 7 narrows the differences between the standard Transitions and the Xtractive? Other than the behind the car activation, it seems like the Transitions Signature can get as dark, and in many temperatures and other conditions. Why would anyone want the Xtractive now?
    What would be the reasons to suggest Brown or Gray?
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    I personally like the new brown a lot better. I'm interested to see how they perform in hotter climates. I'll repost when I get back from Cuba.

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    We've done quite a few of them - 10 to 20 a week or so since they came out. Sold almost no sunglasses in the past 2 months, but lots of transitions.

    Few bits of customer feedback:
    1) Most people like the new colours a bit more. It's not a huge change, but generally positive feedback.

    2) They take FOREVER to change back when it is even a little bit cold outside. I'm sure they work great in equator-land, but if you're in a colder environment like the northern US or Canada, do not get these lenses. People are saying things like "I walked into a grocery store and when I left 20 minutes later they still hadn't begun to lighten!" That's in anything below about -5 or maybe -10C. This has always been a problem with transitions, but its worse with the newer version.

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    The new Signature gets darker in hot weather, and supposedly gets darker in general.
    Other than behind windshield activation, what would the point of the Xtractive lens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lenslover View Post
    The new Signature gets darker in hot weather, and supposedly gets darker in general.
    Other than behind windshield activation, what would the point of the Xtractive lens?
    For a lot of patients, windshield activation is reason enough to want Xtractive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stedel View Post
    2) They take FOREVER to change back when it is even a little bit cold outside. I'm sure they work great in equator-land, but if you're in a colder environment like the northern US or Canada, do not get these lenses.
    Well, Essilor is transitioning (pun intended) pretty much all of their product into Signature 7, so it's really not going to be an option. It's a shame that, just like Vantage, the new version seems to be a regression back to the main reason I didn't like Transitions in the first place.
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    My patients hate them - every single one think they go far too dark (in the UK, so it is normally not very warm). I've even had some older patients say they cannot wear them safely to see, due to the depth of the 'tint'.

    I've swapped every one into an alternative - the Zeiss PhotoFusion, or the Hoya Suntech.

    It's probably one of the worst 'upgrades' to any lens range since I started in the industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lenslover View Post
    What would be the reasons to suggest Brown or Gray?
    Colour preference?

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    I'm located in Rochester , NY and the weather has been quite cold here. I've dispensed 25-30 pair so far, mostly gray, with no complaints whatsoever. I've had several comments from patients about 7 being darker than their old lenses but they've all been positive. Just got a pair for myself this week. Guess I'll see for myself how they react in all conditions. Oh, and the new brown color is WAY better that past versions in my opinion. It finally looks really brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by standarduck View Post
    My patients hate them - every single one think they go far too dark (in the UK, so it is normally not very warm). I've even had some older patients say they cannot wear them safely to see, due to the depth of the 'tint'.
    For every one of those, I'd wager I've had 10 patients reject Transitions because they don't perceive them as getting dark enough. This is one of those technologies that patients expect to function in a way more consistent with magic than with science. The best we can do is to inform our patients of the pluses and minuses of every bit of technology we dispense to them and hope that they receive the education.
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    How many patients complain that they don't want or like the minimal indoor tint with the Xtractive lens. It seems to get plenty dark.
    Last edited by lenslover; 03-20-2014 at 12:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeHamm View Post
    because they don't perceive them as getting dark enough.
    With Transitions 7?

    My complaint only applies to the 'improved' technology.

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    I was wondering if patients with Xtractive are bothered by the indoor tint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by standarduck View Post
    With Transitions 7?

    My complaint only applies to the 'improved' technology.
    With any Transitions.
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    We haven't had much "darkness" feedback on Trans 7 yet, but for Trans 6 we had a lot of people who said "they're not dark enough" and a few people who said, "they're way too dark, and I don't like it!".

    I wonder if they could start offering two different versions of each colour: one that is as dark as possible, and one that is a light, middling shade of brown/grey for people who want that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lenslover View Post
    I was wondering if patients with Xtractive are bothered by the indoor tint.
    I have never had anyone complain about this. We let all our patients know to expect it before the order. I have the Xtractive in two pairs of glasses; it doesn't bother me one bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lenslover View Post
    I was wondering if patients with Xtractive are bothered by the indoor tint.
    Yes, sometimes cataract patients are bothered

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    I ordered my new transitions yesterday, I will post how I like them compared to the 6. My new ones will be brown. I currently have gray and brown.

    At at first I didn't like the gray, I got them in February last year and they got SO dark outside,
    I thought they took too long to lighten up. I tried the brown, I actually liked that they weren't as dark outside(this was winter) and I didn't feel like they were too dark for several minutes when I walked inside.

    I like the the frames with the gray lenses better so I wear them more and I guess I got used to the darker gray lens.

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