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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterCrafter View Post
    What about Obama's policy of killing Americans without due process? Why isnt that all over Lib TV.... Stop watching CNN and MSNBC for Pete's sake.
    CNN 'liberal'! Ha ha ah!

    Seriously though, do you even watch or read 'liberal media'? Criticism of the President over the Drone War, Patriot Act, torture and the NDAA is a fairly common topic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeAurelius View Post
    And there you have it, another rabid, foaming at the mouth Faux News fanatic.
    Name-calling does not promote constructive dialog.


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    Sadly the news media is supposed to be neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentmitchell1961 View Post
    Sadly the news media is supposed to be neutral.
    We now have the Republican news channel, and the Democrat news channels. No one is neutral anymore. For the most part, each channel promotes the good points of its party and ignores the bad, while ignoring any good points of the opposition and only reporting things that make them look bad. America is so divided because our people only hear one side of the story. This is done on purpose; divide and conquer, if you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Machol View Post
    Name-calling does not promote constructive dialog.
    Ok, Steve, I'll drop the word "fanatic".

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    This short blog from last summer briefly describes what the CBO estimates Obamacare will save.

    Yes there are going to be increases in taxes but we are facing premium increases and unfunded uninsured costs that our taxes are eventually paying for with or without any attempt to slow them.

    http://www.bankrate.com/financing/in...-cuts-deficit/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes View Post
    We now have the Republican news channel, and the Democrat news channels. No one is neutral anymore. For the most part, each channel promotes the good points of its party and ignores the bad, while ignoring any good points of the opposition and only reporting things that make them look bad. America is so divided because our people only hear one side of the story. This is done on purpose; divide and conquer, if you will.
    I don't think there has ever been un-biased news reporting, which is a good thing, as long as we don't get all of our information from one source, and get a good mix of perspectives. Not an easy thing to accomplish if you have a family and two jobs. Still, it is our duty as citizens to be as informed as possible, and to communicate our concerns to our representatives through correspondence and at the voting booth.
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    that is one fact the nay-sayers ignore, in the long run socialized medicine drives prices down, it is already slowing premium increases as the major insurance companies (who control medicine in this country, not a good thing) try to figure out how to compete. One huge change will be the price of RX meds. instead of hundreds of dollars per month for some people, it will be tens, leaving a lot more disposable income to spread around the economy, thus creating more jobs. But this will take a few years, and no one wants to look 10 or 20 years down the road, only to the end of the quarter/month/week/day/nose...

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    Well, one thing that we can't argue about is the fact that the Dow closed north on 14,000 today. All is well and the Gods are smiling - Obamacare and sequestration be damned. I am going to pull some of the profits from my brokerage account and buy a new boat. I'll bet that I can find a tax loophole so that I can write it off. If I get two big honkin diesels I know I can write off the road tax on the fuel. Aha . . I am now a commercial fisherman. I can now be found raising hell on on FishiBoard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Machol View Post
    CNN 'liberal'! Ha ha ah!

    Seriously though, do you even watch or read 'liberal media'? Criticism of the President over the Drone War, Patriot Act, torture and the NDAA is a fairly common topic.
    Seriously Steve... CNN is as Liberal as they come

    http://www.mrctv.org/videos/cnns-ban...ieve-it-or-not

    So right now there is Fox News.. and Rush Limbaugh on the right.... and everybody else on the left. I guess this is balance?



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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterCrafter View Post
    Seriously Steve... CNN is as Liberal as they come

    http://www.mrctv.org/videos/cnns-ban...ieve-it-or-not

    So right now there is Fox News.. and Rush Limbaugh on the right.... and everybody else on the left. I guess this is balance?
    Wow! One person who works at CNN is pro-life which make the entire network part of the vast liberal conspiracy.. Golly gee, you sure convinced me. Well done! Now maybe you can get that free toaster from the Tealiban Recruitment Department.

    I won't bother showing you multitudes of examples proving CNN is part of the Corporate right-wing. You would ignore them anyway. I've argued with people like you for too long to know that facts, logic and reason aren't enough displace your belief system.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Machol View Post
    Wow! One person who works at CNN is pro-life which make the entire network part of the vast liberal conspiracy.. Golly gee, you sure convinced me. Well done! Now maybe you can get that free toaster from the Tealiban Recruitment Department.

    I won't bother showing you multitudes of examples proving CNN is part of the Corporate right-wing. You would ignore them anyway. I've argued with people like you for too long to know that facts, logic and reason aren't enough displace your belief system.
    Are you sure you want me to drop "fanatic"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeAurelius View Post
    Are you sure you want me to drop "fanatic"?
    I think the word fanatic could be applied to both sides. Is this conversation really going anywhere?

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    In retrospect, my post was out of line and unworthy of me. The entire premise for this thread was that somehow Obama pulled a fast one on the American people and that Obamacare was going to cost us $6.7 trillion dollars. That claim has been debunked.

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