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    California 1, LUX/ECCA/et al 0

    From a business perspective, what do you think about the Supreme Court's recent decision as reported in VM this morning?

    http://www.visionmonday.com/ViewContent/tabid/211/content_id/39206/catId/103/Default.aspx

    I'd love to hear your thoughts...especially current "Two door" ECP.

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    "Attorneys representing the “dispensing opticians” such as LensCrafters and ECCA (rebranded as VisionWorks), had made the argument that the laws were discriminatory to opticians and optical chains as well as to interstate commerce, while the state of California argued that co-location could result in conflicts of interest. Having brought the case as far as an unsuccessful attempt to be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court, the plaintiffs have exhausted their opportunities for appeal"...

    Imho, there are more "conflicts of interest" when the prescriber is also the seller.

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    As a California Lenscrafters employee I'm curious as to how this will affect me. However, I would imagine we will end up like many other states with an OD located next door.

    LC isn't the only chain/franchise in California that follows this business model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGross1 View Post
    LC isn't the only chain/franchise in California that follows this business model.
    I remember...I used to be a director for Sterling/Site for Sore Eyes. The Walnut Creek office? You basically had to enter the OD lane through a yogurt shop next door. And I guess that's one of the things I find odd. It seems like a difference without a distinction type of a thing. There is, of course, no 'minimum distance' required between the two businesses...

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    Brings them into line with states like Maine........ Always a leader, Maine........

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    Quote Originally Posted by kentmitchell1961 View Post
    Brings them into line with states like Maine........ Always a leader, Maine........
    as our esteemed governor says ... "maine, open for business."
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    Quote Originally Posted by becc971 View Post
    as our esteemed governor says ... "maine, open for business."
    Well, Bangor has Nocturnem and that Friar's place. So ya got that goin' for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindboy View Post
    I remember...I used to be a director for Sterling/Site for Sore Eyes. The Walnut Creek office? You basically had to enter the OD lane through a yogurt shop next door. And I guess that's one of the things I find odd. It seems like a difference without a distinction type of a thing. There is, of course, no 'minimum distance' required between the two businesses...
    Definitely time to question their franchise fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGross1 View Post
    Definitely time to question their franchise fees.
    Ha! At that time they were 'corporate' locations. But I think they got discounts on the yogurt, fwiw.

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    The hypocricy being that Lenscrafters will terminate an OD's lease if they are not selling enough of the LUX product.

    Quote Originally Posted by optical24/7 View Post
    "Attorneys representing the “dispensing opticians” such as LensCrafters and ECCA (rebranded as VisionWorks), had made the argument that the laws were discriminatory to opticians and optical chains as well as to interstate commerce, while the state of California argued that co-location could result in conflicts of interest. Having brought the case as far as an unsuccessful attempt to be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court, the plaintiffs have exhausted their opportunities for appeal"...

    Imho, there are more "conflicts of interest" when the prescriber is also the seller.
    Last edited by sharpstick777; 02-21-2013 at 11:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindboy View Post
    Well, Bangor has Nocturnem and that Friar's place. So ya got that goin' for ya.
    at least you've got good taste!!! The friars are regulars of mine at another job, i'll have to tell them they have fans in NY they'll get all excited that place is why i can't cut carbs!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by becc971 View Post
    i'll have to tell them they have fans in NY they'll get all excited
    You can tell them I offer discounts to my clients in Bangor, just so I can visit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick777 View Post
    The hypocracy being that Lenscrafters will terminate an OD's lease if they are not selling enough of the LUX product.
    Er...can you tell me more about that? Did that happen to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpstick777 View Post
    The hypocricy being that Lenscrafters will terminate an OD's lease if they are not selling enough of the LUX product.
    Gee never hear that, considering I work for them at multiple sites....... As long as they pay their rent it is up to the staff to sell product, not the Doc...

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    I completely agree with 24/7. MDs can't run their own pharmacy in their practices for just such reasons. The goal of law should be to ensure that we all operate on a level playing field.

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    Thanks for the comments, everyone. I appreciate your views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindboy View Post
    From a business perspective, what do you think about the Supreme Court's recent decision as reported in VM this morning?

    http://www.visionmonday.com/ViewContent/tabid/211/content_id/39206/catId/103/Default.aspx

    I'd love to hear your thoughts...especially current "Two door" ECP.
    I believe that the Supreme Court feels that the issue is not within the perview of Federal regulation, that is to say it is a matter of State law.

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