Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Digital And Freeform difference

  1. #1
    Save $$$$ with Acculab
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Illinois, United States
    Occupation
    Optical Wholesale Lab (other positions)
    Posts
    70

    Digital And Freeform difference

    Ive found that the majority of practices do not know the difference between Free-Form and Digital. There is a lab in my area that has taken a conventional lens digitally surfaced them and are raving about it being digital!!! They have raised the price and selling it as digital to offices that don't know much about the market. Its still a conventional mold, the lens is just surfaced differently. I can take an old school image, become a used car salesman put it on the digital generator, raise the price and tell you its a digital lens. Does anyone have any good information website, articles, ect that explain the difference between the two, in which someone with no or little understanding could comprehend??? Thank you!

    Joe Colton
    www.acculab.net

  2. #2
    Master OptiBoarder
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Oakville
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    823
    [QUOTE=JC1111;451537]Ive found that the majority of practices do not know the difference between Free-Form and Digital. There is a lab in my area that has taken a conventional lens digitally surfaced them and are raving about it being digital!!! They have raised the price and selling it as digital to offices that don't know much about the market. Its still a conventional mold, the lens is just surfaced differently. I can take an old school image, become a used car salesman put it on the digital generator, raise the price and tell you its a digital lens. Does anyone have any good information website, articles, ect that explain the difference between the two, in which someone with no or little understanding could comprehend??? Thank you!

    If you do a search on Optiboard I'm sure you will come up with lots of information as I know we've posted about this in the past.

    Regards,
    Golfnorth

  3. #3
    Master OptiBoarder
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Seattle WA
    Occupation
    Optical Wholesale Lab (other positions)
    Posts
    3,137
    There is a thread in the "Progressive Forum" right now that addresses this subject well.

  4. #4
    Master OptiBoarder
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Down in a hole!
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    13,079
    Joe,

    I am sure that if you worked at it, you could come up with a well written article yourself!

  5. #5
    Save $$$$ with Acculab
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Illinois, United States
    Occupation
    Optical Wholesale Lab (other positions)
    Posts
    70
    Im sure I could come up with something however it all comes down marketing.If Essilor says it has to be true!!! lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Fezz View Post
    Joe,

    I am sure that if you worked at it, you could come up with a well written article yourself!

  6. #6
    Master OptiBoarder optical24/7's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Down on the Farm
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    5,826
    Joe, if their digital surfacing includes aspheric/atoric comp's, it is better than traditional surfacing. (at least they aren't saying it's freeform)

  7. #7
    Save $$$$ with Acculab
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Illinois, United States
    Occupation
    Optical Wholesale Lab (other positions)
    Posts
    70
    Thanks for the info, They are telling the customers that they are comparable to our free-form lenses.
    Quote Originally Posted by optical24/7 View Post
    Joe, if their digital surfacing includes aspheric/atoric comp's, it is better than traditional surfacing. (at least they aren't saying it's freeform)

  8. #8
    Master OptiBoarder OptiBoard Silver Supporter Jubilee's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    United States
    Occupation
    Dispensing Optician
    Posts
    3,197
    In the Pro's forum we were discussing in the Costco thread about how a digitally surfaced, semi-finished blank usually only comps the distance, and does not enhance the progressive corridor in the back. The reason being, when the corridor is altered back side, problems can develop. Corridors aren't optimally aligned, and other factors can begin to affect the performance.

    Don't be afraid to stand up for your product. By explaining what the differences are, and using the help of materials such as the White Paper by our own Darryl Meister, it will show your expertise in the area.
    "Some believe in destiny, and some believe in fate. But I believe that happiness is something we create."-Something More by Sugarland

  9. #9
    Master OptiBoarder MakeOptics's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    none
    Occupation
    Other Eyecare-Related Field
    Posts
    1,327
    Quote Originally Posted by JC1111 View Post
    Ive found that the majority of practices do not know the difference between Free-Form and Digital. There is a lab in my area that has taken a conventional lens digitally surfaced them and are raving about it being digital!!! They have raised the price and selling it as digital to offices that don't know much about the market. Its still a conventional mold, the lens is just surfaced differently. I can take an old school image, become a used car salesman put it on the digital generator, raise the price and tell you its a digital lens. Does anyone have any good information website, articles, ect that explain the difference between the two, in which someone with no or little understanding could comprehend??? Thank you!

    Joe Colton
    www.acculab.net
    As the sales guy shouldn't you know the answer to your question. I keep it simple digitally surfacing a molded pal is going to improve the prescriptions performance but a free form should improve both the prescription and the design based on the prescription. The molded design is set in stone and can only be slightly improved but the free form can be designed to perform optimally based on many different parameters.

  10. #10
    OptiBoard Professional RT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    CT
    Occupation
    Lens Manufacturer
    Posts
    879
    They are telling the customers that they are comparable to our free-form lenses.
    Do you have any large scale patient wearer trials to back up YOUR claims of superiority?
    RT

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Electronic measuring equipment for digital freeform lenses
    By doctorjmjb in forum General Optics and Eyecare Discussion Forum
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 05-16-2012, 08:02 PM
  2. Freeform/Digital Design Question and Answer
    By hyperoptic in forum Progressive Lens Discussion Forum
    Replies: 38
    Last Post: 11-12-2010, 08:54 PM
  3. Single Vision Digital FreeForm?
    By IndianaOD in forum General Optics and Eyecare Discussion Forum
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 02-22-2009, 09:56 AM
  4. difference freeform
    By mahmoud.hamza in forum Progressive Lens Discussion Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-05-2007, 09:22 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •