So? Who gets the prize?
Which state, in your esteemed opinion, is the absolute toughest to license in as of 2013? Why do you feel it rates as the hardest of them all?
Discuss...
So? Who gets the prize?
Which state, in your esteemed opinion, is the absolute toughest to license in as of 2013? Why do you feel it rates as the hardest of them all?
Discuss...
Good discussion... Uilleann. I think New York as the toughest... but New Jersey, Florida, Nevada, Virginia, Massachusetts have solid reps.
I think Washington and Virginia are the only 2 states where Opticians can fit and RX contacts, so their contact portions are tougher. So it may depend on what your weakness is.
South Carolina requires the NOCE and a practical exam of everyday opticianry skills. It's easy if you're a good optician, and hard if you're not.
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
I think NJ may be the toughest, or perhaps CT.
B
Hands down - CT, NJ, and NY in that order....followed by FL. BTW - opticians in NY & CT. can also fit contacts.
Lost and confused in an optical wonderland!
NY still? I heard it used to be a beast, but was watered down something awful.
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Sounds like Jersey is the one on top with the most mentions so far. Why? Are the dispensers there all upper crust stuff everywhere perhaps? Anyone here from the 'Garden of the east' and can comment first hand as to what and why the regs there are what they are? (Extra interesting to me as I'm from there, originally.)
I suspect NJ has that reputation because of the 30 credit hours in optical sciences requirement.
I work with a guy who says he was a NJ optician at the time they instituted the requirement and that they didn't grandfather. Sounds sketchy to me, but that's his story.
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
New Jersey StateBoard of Examiners of Ophthalmic Dispensers and Ophthalmic Technicians
PO Box 45011
Newark, NJ 07101
Phone: 973/ 504-6435
Fax: 973/ 648-3355
• Passing of state practical examinations
• 36 months apprenticeship & 30 credits in Ophthalmic
science from accredited program, or
• A.A.S. degree in Opthlalmic science & 4 months
of apprenticeship
• Other state opticianry licenses not recognized
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
New York State Board of Ophthalmic Dispensing
Cultural Education Center, Room 3019
Albany, NY 12230
Phone: 518/ 474-6374
Fax: 518/ 474-6375
• Passing of NOCE & NCLE
• Passing of state practical examinations
• 2 years registered apprenticeship, or,
• 2 years formal opticianry education
• High school graduate
• Other state opticianry licenses not recognized
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Connecticut Board of Medical Quality Assurance
410 Capital Avenue, MS# 12APP
PO Box 340308
Hartford, CT 06134
Phone: 860/ 509-7563
Fax: 860/ 509-8457
• Passing of NOCE & NCLE
• Passing of state proactical examinations
• Passing of state law written examinations
• 4 years registered apprenticeship, or
• 2 years approved accredited program
• Opticianry licenses from other states
will be recognized with Board approval
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Florida Department of Health
Board of Opticianry
4052 Bald Cypress Way Bin C-08
Tallahassee, FL 32399-3258
Phone: 850/ 245-4474
Fax: 850/ 921-5389
• Passing of NCOE and NCLE
• Passing of state practical examinations
• Passing of written FL rules & regulations examinations
• 3 years registered apprenticeship, or,
• A.S. from COA accredited program
• High school graduate & 18 years of age
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Massachusetts Board of Registration of DispensingOpticians
239 Causeway Street
Boston, MA 02114
Phone: 617/ 727-5339
Fax: 617/ 727-1627
• Passing of NOCE & NCLE
• Passing of state practical examinations
• 3 years registered apprenticeship, or,
• 2 years formal opticianry education
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Nevada State Board of Dispensing Opticians
PO Box 70503
Reno, NV 89570
Phone: 775/ 853-1421
• Passing of NOCE & NCLE
• Passing of state practical examinations
• 3 years registered apprenticeship, or,
• 2 years formal opticianry educatrion, plus
1 year of apprenticeship.
• High school graduate & 18 years of age
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Virginia State Board of Opticians
Department of Commerce
3600 West Broad Street
Richmond, VA 23230-4917
Phone: 804/ 367-8500
• Passing of NOCE & state practical examinations
• 3 years apprenticeship, or,
• 2 years at approved opticianry program
• 18 years of age
• Opticanry licenses from other states
will be recognized per Board approval
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Washington Dispensing Opticians Examining Committee
Department of Health
PO Box 47870
Olympia, WA 98504-7870
Phone: 360/ 236-4948
Fax: 360/ 586-0745
• Passing of state written & practical examinations
• 3 years apprenticeship, or,
• 2 years at approved opticianry program, or
• 5 years practicing optician inother state
• 18 years of age
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Optical sciences does not sell glasses.
B
And salesmanship does not sell appropriate, correctly made glasses. While the debate about the importance of salesmanship vs opticianry knowledge rages on, I think we can agree that both are important. A salesperson selling crap glasses isn't any better than an optician that can't sell very well.
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
You might call it...................craft vs art. Why can't it be both?
Eyes wide open
Thanks. That data was originally pulled from OAA's website.
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Ophthalmic Optician, Society to Advance Opticianry
AZ requires
3 years apprent
ABO and NCLE
US Citizenship
Good Moral standing
State Practical test, including K-readings and Radioscope and lensometer
18 years old
no felony convictions
3 letters of reccomendation
They also will offer the License to those holding other States Licenses
I came, I saw, I left
BTW, any more info from the committee of "movers and shakers" in Opticianry? Sorry, I've forgotten the official name.
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