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Hey, Key West seceded from the United States on April 23rd 1982Originally Posted by Uncle Fester
www.conchrepublic.com/history.htm
I did read it, but it only lists how much those states received. It didn't list what those states pay per capita. Texas receives .94 cents for every dollar collected by the Fed. govt.
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The Red/Blue Paradox
One possible explanation is that the voters are misinformed. According to this theory, the people who benefit the most from federal spending simply don’t understand how much money they receive; they assume their tax dollars are subsidizing others when in fact they are the ones being subsidized. People in rural states might be convinced that liberal urban Northeastern jurisdictions get large subsidies for entitlements, welfare, and industry bailouts, while failing to understand how much their own states benefit from agricultural and welfare spending. They may mistakenly equate life in a low-density environment with self-sufficiency. Subsidies and welfare from the federal government help maintain this illusion, enticing them to vote for advocates of smaller government. By contrast, voters in highly urban areas may assume they are the ones who get the most subsidies. In turn, they vote for big-government politicians, thinking that welfare spending will ease social frictions in big cities. Ultimately, everyone is wrong.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/07/14/the-redblue-paradox
Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself. - Richard P. Feynman
Experience is the hardest teacher. She gives the test before the lesson.
This sounds about right. However, some context is needed. How many of those funds are coming in to states because of a large US military presence? Connecticut, Hawaii, Virginia and Maryland all come to mind. Alaska has a small tax base, and returns a sizable chunk of money to its people every year. I suspect the surplus federal dollars go to maintaining the vast tracts of federal land, parks, and military bases. West Virginia and Kentucky have had their economies damaged by Obama's anti-coal policies. My point is, none of these simple figures tell the whole story. Also, to add to the questions, how to issue money, who would get the servicemen (would they go back to their respective states; most ground forces are from the south), and what would happen to the DEBT? This is untenable at best, and very unlikely.
Wesley S. Scott, MBA, MIS, ABOM, NCLE-AC, LDO - SC & GA
“As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.” -Albert Einstein
Secession will never happen. Nothing unites the 2 party rule we have more than a threat to two party rulers.
Really though people where is the wisdom at signing a petition to secede from the US? After all we know we have a Socialist government forming and should they manage to stand I do not want them to find my name on any list they get their hands on for any reason opposing them. They might track me down and make life miserable for me and all of my family.
Nothing wrong with socialism, the US was a socialist republic (hence republicans) up to the 20th century when we switched to a capatalist system, thus resulting in the great depression. The most stable and common system is socialism, where the goverments job is to take care of it's people. All of them. We pay taxes, and personally I want something dome for me for all that money. Not too keen on paying for tons of secretaries and aids for congresspeople that we dont need (the congresspeople that is). Would like better roads, health care, education, clean water, air and food. Is that so bad? Don't really want more bombers and the like....
The US has not nor ever will be a Democracy. I get tired of that word getting used.
And now, a goodly chunk of our government is socialist in nature. Social Security, Medicare, Welfare, AFDC, and on and on and on. Has been since the 1930's. You've been living it for as long as you have been alive. Stop drinking the Faux News kool-aide, stop listening to Hannity, Limburger, and Beck. The "America" they speak about never existed except in their own minds.
Where in the Constitution does it say we are a socialist republic?
I find it interesting that Obamacare was found to be Constitutional on a flimsy interpretation of the individual mandates' penalty for not having insurance being a tax. It was stated in the majority opinion as being a bad law and the court was not a place to fix the choices the electorate makes in the choosing of its leaders.
How much taxation is enough? It takes massive taxation to run a socialist government. Should we follow France and tax the top earners at 75%, where does it end? Who makes the money? Is it the governments to begin with and is the government simply a benevolent monolithic entity that determines fairness? Are we individuals or a collective?
The only responsibility the Federal government has is to ensure the safety of the Union, the rest of "government" is to be at the state and local level.
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No where does it say that, why should it say something that is implicit?
As to taxes, yes tax the rich, not the poor. In 2002 my tax rate in Rochester NY was 38%. Local, county, NYC, state and federal. And I made $8 an hour and was a full time student. Moved to the UK, where my tax rate overall was 20%, my wife made 3 times more than I and did not break 40% overall. One thing that the news does not pass on is that that 75% is not overall, but only on the percentage over a certain amount, say anything over 1,000,000. It is a multi tier scale, so the rich stay rich but pay more but not 75 on every penny. Here it seems the oposite, the more you make the less you owe.
(emphasis mine)The only responsibility the Federal government has is to ensure the safety of the Union, the rest of "government" is to be at the state and local level.
Ummmm....No. Re-read the Constitution sometime.
I like to use this website: http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst.html
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