I'll add that all test lenses were poly w/AR
Awesome science experiment!
My lenses are about a year old, Transitions VI Brown in 1.67 with Avance. I'll perform more experiments as more Vantage product crosses my desk.
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I just sold my first pairs to a couple. Both Trivex w/AR I will keep let you know how they like them after dispense!
Trivex? My lab told me plastic and poly with 1.67 coming next month.
Two lenses held at 90* darkened maybe 50%, even if they were polarized to a useful degree they're not dark enough in the sun and completely clear in the car (10 minutes after you've walked though the sun anyway). I can not for the life of me determine what the point is.
I saw it available in "Aris" and "Phoenix" on opticom.
Have a pair of Phoenix on order for our Doc to wear in a pair of Hilco Bling goggles which are specific to riding her scooter. Can't possibly think of a better use.
Vantage is available in Plastic, Poly, and Trivex. Hoya currently offers the Summit ECP and Summit CD in Trivex. It is also available in the Shamir Spectrum and Autograph II.
The 1.67 is set to be released on June 5th. I believe this will be released in the Essilor Ideal, Comfort DRX and Physio DRX, as well as Shamir Spectrum and Autograph II.
James
We just got our first pair back in Phoenix. Honestly can't distinguish it from my own pair of transitions in terms of how clear it is in office.
When will the opticians and optometrists will stop thinking about their patients budget and start recommending the best product available to their patients? You are not an accountant... You are an eyecare professional who should offer the best for the patient related to their needs.
If I believe it is the best product for my patient I will offer it doesn't matter if they can afford it or not. Pair of lenses help you see the world you are living in and the quality of that lens determines how well you see all the good things in life. To me that is priceless. If you show your patient you are looking out for their best interest they will buy it.
I always recommend the best products for my patient, and they very frequently take my recommendations. But $150 is inarguably a very premium price for a lens add-on, particularly one that takes 10+ minutes to lighten up. I tell my patients the benefits and drawbacks of all my products, then tell them the price and let them decide.
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Finally got mine! They were for a VERY specific use - fishing/kayaking late in the afternoon into the evening. They work very well for this purpose. They do not replace my favorites (DriveWear, BTW), but I can drive home with relatively clear glasses, and still have the polarization earlier when the light was brighter and coming from the west. They do exactly what I wanted them to do. However - I have glasses that are task specific for almost everything, and these could be a hard sell for the average consumer. My main concern is what will they "do" 6 mos. from now - spoken from a veteran of the first edition Transitions.
Would this "best product" really be a better product for the patient than a pair if clear lenses and a good pair of polarised Rx glasses. Or a pair of regular transitions and a serious pair of polarized suns?
Does being more profitable make it the "best" product for the patient?
Chip
The only thing I have against clip-ons is that there is more for the patient to misplace or lose. Second pairs are a big plus, but I was looking for something more specialized that would eliminate a second pair for a unique purpose. I will present these to patients with all of the caveats etc. I am sure there is a niche market for these.
I am putting them into a Rudy Project Maya. It is an absolutely perfect lens for the athletic functions I'm going to use them for.
Many of my Transitions patients also buy polarized sunglasses. We make it very clear that Transitions is not a sunglass product, it's an eyeglass product.
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I didn't say it is the best product. If it is the best product for the patient I will recommend it but if I think there are better options I will recommend those. I don't know how you work but for me it is all about what is best for the patient. I don't care what is more profitable.
My main lab was an independant and they did a great job. Then they were bought by the evil empire and have slowly been going down hill ever since. Not to mention that we can no longer get competitor's products. I'm definately ready to try someone else (also looking for a stock lens supplier). Who would you recommend for all the major brands?
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