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    U-V for Glass

    Have a patient that wants UV and glass lenses. I foolishly thought it could be added to glass.
    Lab tells me no, someone know something the lab doesn't?

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    Use either PGX or 1.6 glass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chip anderson View Post
    Have a patient that wants UV and glass lenses. I foolishly thought it could be added to glass.
    Lab tells me no, someone know something the lab doesn't?

    Chip
    There are coatings available.

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    Use 1.6 glass. UV coatings on glass give you a horrible yellowish/brownish/greenish hue that's nearly 30% - looks horrid.

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    I think you'd be best with a PGX lens for UV absorption, if you are not after a sun-glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braheem24 View Post
    i think this will help solve the problem

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    Glass has absorbed UV forever. Have you ever got a sunburn behind your car windshield ? Are you photochtomatic lenses activating behind closed windows?

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    Ophthalmic glass absorbs very little UV. Hoya, a long time ago, brought out some special UV absorbing glass lenses. IIRC, they absorbed only abut 12% of the UV, only a slight increase over regular crown. I'll check to see if i still have any lying around and test them.
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    Add AR to it. No UV

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    unscientific.......but:

    Tested with a Phantom UV 400udx unit. Lenses were not clean to perfection, I might add.

    surfaced crown: UV transmission 87%
    PGX: Uv transmission 24% reducing to 8%
    AR coated crown: 73%
    Crown FT: 86%
    Crown tonelite#1: 13%
    Umbral 85(Zeiss): 1%
    Stock 1.49 SV: 95% Buchman, Ao Masterpiece SV: 91%
    1.7 Glass AR: 65%

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    Add AR to it . NO UV

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdcoach5 View Post
    Add AR to it . NO UV
    Could you please elaborate? You have me confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncut View Post
    Could you please elaborate? You have me confused.
    65% block http://www.tru-vue.com/Tru-Vue/Products/museum-glass/
    another better possibility http://www.evaporatedcoatings.com/glass-substrates.htm
    http://www.opticalcoatings.com/processes/glare.html
    while these sites don't specialize in lenses but in things like monitors , I don't know why they couldn't coat lenses.
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    Thanks, rdcoach5, for replying. I now understand what you were saying. The 65% cut still means a 35% transmission, though.
    The way I see it:
    Optical quality glass, because of it's chemical composition(s), transmits more UV than automotive, plate, and industrial glass, and therefore, any attempt to fully block UV, in spectacle lenses must involve a tint, and the maximum I recorded is 65% block with a 1.7 index AR. Now, a Tonelite#1(non-coated) recorded an 87% block, PGX recorded a better block, especially activated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncut View Post
    Thanks, rdcoach5, for replying. I now understand what you were saying. The 65% cut still means a 35% transmission, though.
    The way I see it:
    Optical quality glass, because of it's chemical composition(s), transmits more UV than automotive, plate, and industrial glass, and therefore, any attempt to fully block UV, in spectacle lenses must involve a tint, and the maximum I recorded is 65% block with a 1.7 index AR. Now, a Tonelite#1(non-coated) recorded an 87% block, PGX recorded a better block, especially activated.

    When I go to these web sites, it looks like they can design their AR stack to block pretty much what they want. Maybe someone in the lab side can respond to this? I sent e-mails to Zeiss and SLC to get their response. I'll let you know what they say.

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