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    Drill mounts, trivex, and transitions

    I'm an optical retailer of less than a year, but take pride in my work.

    This may be self-centered, but it may be an exercise that can teach me something new.

    It's time for me to get myself a pair of specs, after living solely in contacts for five years. I'm leaning toward a drill mount frame with Trivex (Definity) lenses with Transitions IV, and our company's higher-end anti-reflective coat.

    I am single-vision only, with a script of:

    OD -2.75 -0.25
    OS -3.00 -1.00

    First of all, my place of employment doesn't carry drill mounts, so I am inexperienced with them. Is there anything a drill mount would merit considering? For example, is Transitions or AR any different than in a full or semi-rimless frame?

    My general reason for posting this is to generate thoughts and see if my own glasses can be a case study into learning.
    Any relevant thoughts are appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkafur View Post
    First of all, my place of employment doesn't carry drill mounts, so I am inexperienced with them. Is there anything a drill mount would merit considering? For example, is Transitions or AR any different than in a full or semi-rimless frame?.
    Transitions and AR work the same in any frame. What I am curious about is why you want a drill mount frame if your employer does not carry them? What happens when your customer say's "I want what you are wearing" because they inevitably will.

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    D try 1.6 for an Rx like that in rimless
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    I would also pick 1.6 as the best compromise.

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    Trivex would be ok, but a MR-8 1.60 would be better. Transitions and A/R are the same no matter the frame style. Shame that you're going with the Definity though.
    There are rules. Knowing those are easy. There are exceptions to the rules. Knowing those are easy. Knowing when to use them is slightly less easy. There are exceptions to the exceptions. Knowing those is a little more tricky, and know when to use those is even more so. Our industry is FULL of all of the above.

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    What's wrong with the Definity? (That may be incorrect. I know our Trivex lenses are Definity, although I think this refers to the progressive template. Since I am single vision, this isn't a part of it.)
    Also, our Transitions lenses are labelled "Transitions IV." Are these outdated at all?

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    Well, given that currently we're using Transitions VI.... (Unless that was a typo on your part) yes, those would be outdated. And yes, the Definity is a progressive, so if you're Single Vision, it doesn't matter.
    There are rules. Knowing those are easy. There are exceptions to the rules. Knowing those are easy. Knowing when to use them is slightly less easy. There are exceptions to the exceptions. Knowing those is a little more tricky, and know when to use those is even more so. Our industry is FULL of all of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkafur View Post
    It's time for me to get myself a pair of specs,
    It sounds like you are ordering from a poorly designed Chinese websight, maybe this one,

    http://www.glasses86.com/index.php?p...=view&id=21332

    although there are hundreds of others to choose from that will make extremely unpleasant and/or inferior eyeglasses.

    Any help we provide will still result in poorly fit and performing eyeglasses.
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    Absolutely go with Trivex, especially in a drill mount. Better optics, almost on par with crown glass (which of course you cannot (in a drill mount) and do not want). Like someone else pointed out, Transitions VI (6) is the newest generation of Transitions. I also agree with whomever pointed out that you really don't want to wear a frame that you do not carry, you will have patients requesting the ones you wear and then what will you say to them? "No, I got these somewhere else". That doesn't look very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaypaula View Post
    Absolutely go with Trivex, especially in a drill mount. Better optics, almost on par with crown glass (which of course you cannot (in a drill mount) and do not want). Like someone else pointed out, Transitions VI (6) is the newest generation of Transitions. I also agree with whomever pointed out that you really don't want to wear a frame that you do not carry, you will have patients requesting the ones you wear and then what will you say to them? "No, I got these somewhere else". That doesn't look very good.
    Kaypaula,

    This is a consumer buying online, and is lying through their teeth to hide the fact. Didn't you read the last post in the the thread?

    What if they have monocular vision?
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    Oh. I honestly didn't see that. You guys are more perceptive than I! Do we have a forum for consumers to ask these sorts of questions? And if so, why wouldn't they use that instead? Weird.
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    when you get your transition IV with so called "hi-end" anti reflective coating and they dont fit right and the rx is off dont come to any of us for adjustments or to ask questions about your lens...

    send your questions and adjustments back to the internet

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaypaula View Post
    Oh. I honestly didn't see that. You guys are more perceptive than I!
    Just this once.:)

    Do we have a forum for consumers to ask these sorts of questions?
    This used to be allowed in the _Just Conversation_ forum, but ended, I believe by vote about five years ago.
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    I don't use anything BUT Trivex when it comes to drill mounts and I also use A LOT of Trivex with kids. The optics are way better. I personally don't care for Transitions but some people swear by them. I prefer my pair of RX sunglasses but like I said..that's just my opinion.

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    Why not glass? Provides better optics and is more scratch resistant.

    If you want it thin, you can go with 1.8. Much thinner than Trivex or 1.6

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    Glass in a drillmount? Are you crazy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geirskogul View Post
    Glass in a drillmount? Are you crazy?
    Consumers who want to buy online need to be exposed to the benefits of glass as a material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life View Post
    Why not glass? Provides better optics and is more scratch resistant.

    If you want it thin, you can go with 1.8. Much thinner than Trivex or 1.6
    I'll agree with Geirskogurl..glass in a drill mount? Or for kids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life View Post
    Consumers who want to buy online need to be exposed to the benefits of glass as a material.
    There are benefits to wearing glass?? :bbg:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keri_Leigh27 View Post
    There are benefits to wearing glass?? :bbg:
    It can be clearer than CR-39 or trivex, is more scratch resistant and thinner.

    An ONLINE pair of glasses in 1.8 glass, in a drill mount frame would be amazing.

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    Geir and Keri:::Don't you see? He is one of the worst.

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    I think it's actually Mike A. in disguise :bbg:

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    Quote Originally Posted by finefocus View Post
    Geir and Keri:::Don't you see? He is one of the worst.
    Don't forget it

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life View Post
    Consumers who want to buy online need to be exposed to the benefits of glass as a material.
    The benefits of cracking and shattering drillmount or kid's glass lenses, with the additional benefit of injury, free of charge.

    That's how I read it.

    It would be nice to see what an online glasses manuf would do with an order of drill glass. Make them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geirskogul View Post
    The benefits of cracking and shattering drillmount or kid's glass lenses, with the additional benefit of injury, free of charge.

    That's how I read it.

    It would be nice to see what an online glasses manuf would do with an order of drill glass. Make them?
    You do realize I was kidding, since we are all giving advice to a consumer looking to buy glasses online?

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