silhouette drill mounts

**specs4you** · 10-29-2010, 06:15 PM

I have a rule of thumb with how high minus I think Silhouette drills should be made,knowing the other meas. factors.

Curious ....how do you feel about how high you are willing to go?
I think they look horrible thick.......and there is the thickness of edges.

**finefocus** · 10-29-2010, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by specs4you

I have a rule of thumb with how high minus I think Silhouette drills should be made,knowing the other meas. factors.

Curious ....how do you feel about how high you are willing to go?
I think they look horrible thick.......and there is the thickness of edges.

My limit is 20 diopters. Why are rimless different from thin metals?

**specs4you** · 10-29-2010, 06:31 PM

Just cosmetic, and the fact that the angle on the mounts gets dicey and many times
wear lousy.

**loose-screw** · 10-29-2010, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by finefocus

My limit is 20 diopters. Why are rimless different from thin metals?

Wow really 20. Now are you talking 20 diopters in a drill mount or a groove (rimless). I have worked in several places that refer to them different ways.

I thought my -5.25 x -2.50 looked bad as a drill mount

**uncut** · 10-29-2010, 07:26 PM

With all the possibilities of bridge sizes, temple styles and lengths, lens shapes, ability to custom drill the holes vertically and horizontally.......These rimlesses are a fantastic way to show your ability and talent in customizing a much more cosmetically pleasant pair of eyewear than ever.

If you choose the lens material carefully, and use the best shape for the Rx.....up to -20 can be better looking, and optically more comfortable, than some other full rim choices.

**scriptfiller** · 10-29-2010, 08:24 PM

I like the high minus ones where you don't have to trim the bushings!

**drk** · 10-29-2010, 10:33 PM

I've always felt under 5mm looks best.

**NCspecs** · 10-30-2010, 03:43 PM

I've done as high as a +/- 5 but with a high index lens. Material is important to a point; I always choose the lens shape for the pt based on where the optical center will sit as well. There aren't too many people who fight me on this decision. My only caveat; Silhouette clips don't fit well on a high plus unfortunately.

**Fezz** · 10-30-2010, 03:53 PM

I refuse to do business with this "PARTNER"!

I refer all Sillyhouette inquiries to Barry Santini and his fine establishment!

**finefocus** · 10-30-2010, 05:56 PM

I chose 20 diopters as a deliberate overstatement; there is no theoretical limit. A thick edge isn't covered by a rimlon, and covered very little by a conventional metal. Unless you go to a zyl, or a thick endpiece, the 3-piece costs you little in cosmesis. Also, rimless doesn't have the ring effect you get from a bevel, and also from a rimlon groove. For some tastes, the frame you need to cover the edge is more obtrusive than the edge itself.

**DragonLensmanWV** · 11-01-2010, 10:35 AM

Here's a minus 15 in drill mount. With facets!

**Barry Santini** · 11-01-2010, 10:50 AM

I bow to you, Master Dragonlensman!

Barry

**Barry Santini** · 11-01-2010, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Fezz

I refuse to do business with this "PARTNER"!

I refer all Sillyhouette inquiries to Barry Santini and his fine establishment!

Yes I'm silly.

Barry

**drk** · 11-01-2010, 11:38 AM

Dragon:

Interesting idea. When you say "facet" are you differentiating from "lenticular/myodisk" and "roll/polish", or was that just a term you threw out there?

Can you take a high minus and make a facetted look to hide the edge thickness? Does it look OK? Can you facet the front surface instead?

**Johns** · 11-01-2010, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by DragonLensmanWV

Here's a minus 15 in drill mount. With facets!

Wow! Wow! and Wow!

**Robert Martellaro** · 11-01-2010, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by finefocus

Also, rimless doesn't have the ring effect you get from a bevel, and also from a rimlon groove.

Good point. That's why I never polish the edges for full metal frames- looks like the proverbial "Coke bottle".

Originally Posted by Barry Santini

Yes I'm silly.

Barry

Me too. I'll take any Silhouette overflow you can't handle.

Originally Posted by Barry Santini

I bow to you, Master Dragonlensman!

Barry

Ditto. The second photo is visual art- I'm not sure what I'm seeing, and I like when that happens.

To the OP: Sikhouette recommends no more than 6.5mm thickness at any hole, which is the length of the sleeve.

**kcount** · 11-01-2010, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by DragonLensmanWV

Here's a minus 15 in drill mount. With facets!

Great job! Like the Facets.

**DragonLensmanWV** · 11-01-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by drk

Dragon:

Interesting idea. When you say "facet" are you differentiating from "lenticular/myodisk" and "roll/polish", or was that just a term you threw out there?

Can you take a high minus and make a facetted look to hide the edge thickness? Does it look OK? Can you facet the front surface instead?

I was referring to front side facets like they used to do. Heck, I still do one every now and then.
My technique is to wrap tape around the drill as a marker so you only drill each hole 5 mm deep, then insert the bushings from the front since your holes don't go all the way through the lens, cut off and insert. I made a special plier to crimp with so you don't mar the back surface of the lens, and someone else suggested to use a bit of UV cure glue in the holes to secure the posts.

**loose-screw** · 11-01-2010, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by DragonLensmanWV

I was referring to front side facets like they used to do. Heck, I still do one every now and then.
My technique is to wrap tape around the drill as a marker so you only drill each hole 5 mm deep, then insert the bushings from the front since your holes don't go all the way through the lens, cut off and insert. I made a special plier to crimp with so you don't mar the back surface of the lens, and someone else suggested to use a bit of UV cure glue in the holes to secure the posts.

Very nice indeed.
If I may ask what material did you use, and what drill system to you use
I have never done a Facet don't know if I have the talent for some of the Facet work I have seen in the past.

I humble bow to your skills in the art of drilling

**sharpstick777** · 11-01-2010, 07:24 PM

Nice work Dragon. How do you keep them symetrical looking left and right?

**DragonLensmanWV** · 11-02-2010, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by loose-screw

Very nice indeed.
If I may ask what material did you use, and what drill system to you use
I have never done a Facet don't know if I have the talent for some of the Facet work I have seen in the past.

I humble bow to your skills in the art of drilling

That is 1.70 index Hoya ECP lenses. I use the Hilco drill, version 2 of it. Their first iteration of the drill had some problems, and this generation 2 has a few, and I don't know about their newest one.