Essilor "freeform" lenses; Premium product, or just high priced?

[DragonLensmanWV]

I have identical pairs in Shamir Auto II, Hoya Amplitude HD, and Hoya ID LIfestyle. My favorite ones are the Lifestyle out of the three because they have a much nicer intermediate and is an easily noticeable difference. Other than that, they all do well in the distance and near (+3.00 add)

[Uncle Fester]

I'm in the Enhanced. I also have worn the Auto 2, Seiko Prefas, Comfort 360, Illumina, Sola one and a couple others.

Enhanced and Auto have the least swim but these emmetropic eyes can adjust to any of them in a few minutes. Then again I'm not a fussy guy.

[jcamp]

Everyone has different "visual sensitivity" and many can wear a variety of the PAL designs. I've fit a lot of patients with freeform and don't see the "wow" factor. They certainly don't look any better in the lensometer. It just doesn't seem that great of an improvement for the cost. Just my opinion.

[MasterCrafter]

Everyone has different "visual sensitivity" and many can wear a variety of the PAL designs. I've fit a lot of patients with freeform and don't see the "wow" factor. They certainly don't look any better in the lensometer. It just doesn't seem that great of an improvement for the cost. Just my opinion.

I've seen alot of "wow" factor people. Especially with Myopic people. The Hyperops do not see as much of a "wow" factor.

But either way digital progs are the best thing to happen to lenses in a long time, and on the plus side the cost keeps dropping :bbg:

[icmor]

That's where I'm coming from. With a low dist correction, I don't see a great difference, where as, someone with a higher script, and or high cyl, may definitely see a greater improvement from one style to another. I'm hoping some of those wearers will post their experience.

[Happylady]

I got a free pair of Physio Enhanced at a seminar. They're nice but I'm not getting a wow. I like my Physio Short better. I would love to try the Hoya ID.

[KStraker]

icmor, I believe the answer is Both. i noticed you referenced the Phys Enhanced as Essilor. In reality this is a premium "Varilux" product. There is a bunch of cost and value in branding to the consumer. Do you cary sell or promote any brand name frames? Etc. I suggest if you use the support and marketing Varilux offers and promote it as a/the premium brand the cost has a lot of value.

So you really believe that the designs for Varilux lenses are completely different than the other lenses Essilor offers? Are you saying that all the hype and POP Varilux uses makes the lens a better value? I disagree. I'd say that if I can produce the same or better result for the patient, and use a cheaper lens, then I have a very real increase in value.(not a perceived value) The rest is a warm fuzzy feeling brought on by the cheerleaders at Varilux.(who do an excellent job)

[LAGUNAEYEDESIGNER]

I've seen alot of "wow" factor people. Especially with Myopic people. The Hyperops do not see as much of a "wow" factor.

But either way digital progs are the best thing to happen to lenses in a long time, and on the plus side the cost keeps dropping :bbg:

MasterCrafter,

Seiko just got a new free form progressive-SURMOUNT and they claim will "WOW" hyperops. Have you tried them? Or anyone have tried Surmont (seiko lens)?
How are they? Please share your views. Thanks.

Laguna.

[HarryChiling]

MasterCrafter,

Seiko just got a new free form progressive-SURMOUNT and they claim will "WOW" hyperops. Have you tried them? Or anyone have tried Surmont (seiko lens)?
How are they? Please share your views. Thanks.

Laguna.

The thickness or the lack of it is amazing, especially for hyperopes. I haven't received any feedback yet on the optics, but so far the lenses look better than anything on the market.

[Jubilee]

Shamir more expensive?

Hmm.. in our area the Shamir Free Forms are less expensive the Varilux, or Zeiss. The labs I am working with aren't advertising Seiko, though it the local lab putting in the FF generator might be using one of their designs for their inhouse branded FF.

[Judy Canty]

The thickness or the lack of it is amazing, especially for hyperopes. I haven't received any feedback yet on the optics, but so far the lenses look better than anything on the market.

I sent my frame in yesterday. I'm a +2.00/+2.50 add. They're going in an Acuity FF round 47 eye zyl. I'll keep you posted.

[DragonLensmanWV]

I sent my frame in yesterday. I'm a +2.00/+2.50 add. They're going in an Acuity FF round 47 eye zyl. I'll keep you posted.

Are you getting those put in the old Oscar de la Renta?

[Judy Canty]

Are you getting those put in the old Oscar de la Renta?

Ummm...no. I'm saving them for something really special. :bbg:

[DragonLensmanWV]

Ummm...no. I'm saving them for something really special. :bbg:

Polarized lenses with blue mirror?

[Judy Canty]

You read my mind!!