TheLensGuru.com PAL maps

**optical24/7** · 04-02-2010, 06:17 PM

Thanks again Tony for you're site. A great resource used by many of us. And thanks Harry for your contributions and your future ones brah!

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

**TLG** · 04-02-2010, 06:22 PM

:cheers:

**TLG** · 04-03-2010, 08:58 AM

Here are the lenses I have that Harry has not mapped. Does not include any lens with freeform backsurface.

ADMIRA
AUGEN AIR
ALL PURPOSE F
AMPLITUDE
AMPLITUDE SHORT
AMPLY
AO COMPACT
AO FORCE
ATTITUDE
AUGEN PROGRESSIVE
BALANCE
BALANCE MINI
CENTURION
CENTURION SHORT
DC MINI
ELLIPSE
EOS
EOS WRAP
ESSILOR ANTI-FATIGUE
FASHION FIT
FREEDOM 5
FREEDOM ID
FUSION I
FUSION II
HYPERVIEW
IRX PRO
IRX SHORT
MICRA
MINUO
NOVELLA
OMNIS
OPTIPOL
PHYSIO ENHANCED
PHYSIO SHORT
POLAR PAL
POLAR-RAY
PRESIO I
PROCEED
PROGRESSIV
PROGRESSIV AT
PROGRESSIV SI
RESPONSE
REVEAL
SHOREVIEW
SHOREVIEW MINI
SHORT CORRIDOR M
SHORT i
SHORTY PAL
SIGHTSTAR
SPACIA
STEALTH
SUMMIT CD
SUMMIT ECP
SYNCHRONY
TRINITY
VISUALITY
ZEISS GT2 SHORT

Near Variable Focus:
CONTINUUM
COSMOLIT OFFICE
ESSILOR COMPUTER
GRADAL RD
ONLINE

**Mr. Finney** · 04-03-2010, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by braheem24

Post here please so everyone can have a say so in what they would like to see added to your site. My preferences are U.S. based companies first but others may have other needs.

Beer buffet at my place anytime you make it down down here.

Hmmm, if I'm not mistaken, I'll be going right through Ocala on my way to Tampa after taking my test in Tallahassee......:bbg:

**TLG** · 04-04-2010, 07:56 PM

Hopefully this will be more useful. Please let me know if I can help further or if anything seems missing.

AO/SOLA
AO COMPACT
AO FORCE
SYNCHRONY
VISUALITY
CONTINUUM

Augen USA
AIR
AUGEN PROGRESSIVE
CENTURION
CENTURION SHORT
SPACIA
TRINITY

Carl Zeiss Vision, Inc
ZEISS GT2 SHORT
GRADAL RD

Essilor of America, Inc
ELLIPSE
ESSILOR ANTI-FATIGUE
PHYSIO ENHANCED
PHYSIO SHORT
ESSILOR COMPUTER

Excelite, Inc
MINUO
OMNIS

HOYA Vision Care - View all materials :: Visit company website
AMPLITUDE
AMPLITUDE SHORT
SUMMIT CD
SUMMIT ECP

Indo Lens US, Inc
ADMIRA
AMPLY
MICRA

KBco
EOS
EOS WRAP
FUSION I
FUSION II

Luzerne Optical
SIGHTSTAR

Optima Inc
HYPERVIEW
RESPONSE

Pentax Vision
DC MINI

Polycore Optical USA
ALL PURPOSE F
SHORT CORRIDOR M

Rodenstock USA
PROGRESSIV AT
PROGRESSIV SI
COSMOLIT OFFICE

Seiko Optical
PROCEED

Shamir Insight Inc
ATTITUDE

Shore Lens Company
BALANCE
BALANCE MINI
PRESIO I
SHOREVIEW
SHOREVIEW MINI
NIKON ONLINE

Specialty Lens Corporation
IRX PRO
IRX SHORT
OPTIPOL
POLAR PAL
SHORTY PAL

Vision Service Plan
REVEAL

Vision Warehouse
STEALTH

Vision-Ease Worldwide
NOVELLA

X-Cel Optical Company
FASHION FIT
FREEDOM 5
FREEDOM ID
PROGRESSIV

**braheem24** · 04-04-2010, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by TLG

Hopefully this will be more useful. Please let me know if I can help further or if anything seems missing.

Thank you so much, I think the format catagorizing by manufacturer is a big help.

**drk** · 04-05-2010, 09:05 AM

You know what kind of bums me out, though?

Those lens maps can't be corrected for "as worn" technology. You place that sucker on the Rotlex table flat, and the intended design that incorporated 7 degrees of face-form and 10 degrees of pantoscopic is going to look a little crappy. It would be the same as tilting a non-POW lens.

We have to come to our senses and realize that this endeavor only works with older designs.

I have an alternative idea, however! More later.

**Uncle Fester** · 04-05-2010, 10:06 AM

Just spent some time talking to Pro Fit Optix. 1-866-996-7849

http://www.profitoptix.com/

Interesting independent lab.

Rodenstock AT and SI are no more. The non digital lenses now are the Classic Life and Purelife.

I'm getting some info from them and will get them for mapping.

Harry C- look for an e mail to get your address to forward them and thanks for all you've done and are doing!:cheers:

Tony- Harry is right that maps should be on a subscribed basis.:cheers:

**Mr. Finney** · 04-05-2010, 10:22 AM

Almost Uncle, but the Classics are Life 2 (I think) and XS, while the Purelifes are digitally surfaced.

**Uncle Fester** · 04-05-2010, 10:34 AM

According to Pro Fit Classiclife and Purelife are not digital.

**Mr. Finney** · 04-05-2010, 10:59 AM

You're right Fester, my bad, Classic is standard mold, Purelife is digital mold, yes? To get freeform you have to go Multigressiv, or whatever they call it wherever you buy it, LOL!

**TLG** · 04-05-2010, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Uncle Fester

Tony- Harry is right that maps should be on a subscribed basis.:cheers:

Sorry, not sure what you mean by this

**Uncle Fester** · 04-06-2010, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by braheem24

I have one request, I will not pay for a PAL made by any company that sells directly to consumers.

We should see these as well. If it cost a few bucks or a yearly "members" fee I think it would help keep it as an ECP tool. If you have no motivation to profit from your labors the money could be used to help compensate Harry C as well as potentially expand the maps and get a greater variety of powers for comparison.

This could be a more open discussion if moved to the Pro's Forum imo.

Opps- I misread this to think it was Tony's comment (bonk). But the sentiment still applies.

**CCGREEN** · 04-06-2010, 09:04 AM

Beer buffet????? I'm on my way.

Originally Posted by braheem24

Post here please so everyone can have a say so in what they would like to see added to your site. My preferences are U.S. based companies first but others may have other needs.

Beer buffet at my place anytime you make it down down here.

**Uncle Fester** · 04-14-2010, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by braheem24

Harry has spent $4K of his own money to offer us the maps, I'm offering to do the next 20 for market research.

If anyone has a PAL they would like to see added, Please list it below...

1. X-cel Freedom ID
2. X-cel Freedom 5
3. X-cel Freedom Fashions Fit
4. Concord Micra
5. Hoya Amplitude
6. Hoya Amplitude Mini
7. Hoya Summit CD
8. Hoya Summit ECP
9. Augen AIR
10. AUGEN PROGRESSIVE
11. Augen CENTURION
12. Augen CENTURION SHORT
13. Augen SPACIA
14. Augen TRINITY
15. Optima Hyperview
16. Rodenstock AT
17. Luzerne Sighstar
18. AO COMPACT
19. AO FORCE
20. AO SYNCHRONY
21. AO VISUALITY
22. AO CONTINUUM
22.
24.
25.
26.
27.
28. Polycore M - Supplied by Dragon
29. Polycore F - Supplied by Dragon
30. Polycore S - Supplied by Dragon
31. Rodenstock Classic Life - Supplied by Uncle Fester.
32. Rodenstock PureLife - Supplied by Uncle Fester.

Expanded to 32

I have one request, I will not pay for a PAL made by any company that sells directly to consumers.

Just ordered the Purelife and Classiclife uncuts pl/200.

Tony- You can delete the AT as I believe it is discontinued.

**ih8wlmrt** · 04-14-2010, 03:45 PM

just wondering about lensguru.com- is it designed for use by optical professionals or for customers? why the ads for eyeglasses on line? I sure don't want to buy my glasses on line, I'll make my own thank you, and I sure don't want my customers seeing that they can get varilux retail for less than I pay wholesale,and I really don't need the reminder that little stores like mine are doomed if online eyeglasses catch on. so whats up with that? who makes the money off the ads? who owns the sight?
just wondering.

**TLG** · 04-14-2010, 06:33 PM

just wondering about lensguru.com-
is it designed for use by optical professionals or for customers?
Optical Professionals
why the ads for eyeglasses on line?
So it remains free for YOU to use
I sure don't want to buy my glasses on line
No one said you have to
and I sure don't want my customers seeing that they can get varilux retail for less than I pay wholesale
Sounds like something you should be talking to your Essilor rep about
I really don't need the reminder that little stores like mine are doomed if online eyeglasses catch on. so whats up with that?
Probably not your biggest threat
who makes the money off the ads?
I do. In fact I'm rakin' it in; this month I might make $50 - minus hosting costs and the many hours I'll spend updating data.
who owns the sight?
That'd be me too. I developed the site during a two year period in my free time (I'm a full time dispensing optician) and have had it online since April 2007. It's my 'gift' to the industry I've spent my whole life working in and hope that it will always remain free to use for ECPs. I have received tremendous support from the OptiBoard community and try my best to provide accurate and up to date information.
just wondering.
Please let me know if you have any more questions.

**ih8wlmrt** · 04-15-2010, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by TLG

just wondering about lensguru.com-
is it designed for use by optical professionals or for customers?
Optical Professionals
why the ads for eyeglasses on line?
So it remains free for YOU to use
I sure don't want to buy my glasses on line
No one said you have to
and I sure don't want my customers seeing that they can get varilux retail for less than I pay wholesale
Sounds like something you should be talking to your Essilor rep about
I really don't need the reminder that little stores like mine are doomed if online eyeglasses catch on. so whats up with that?
Probably not your biggest threat
who makes the money off the ads?
I do. In fact I'm rakin' it in; this month I might make $50 - minus hosting costs and the many hours I'll spend updating data.
who owns the sight?
That'd be me too. I developed the site during a two year period in my free time (I'm a full time dispensing optician) and have had it online since April 2007. It's my 'gift' to the industry I've spent my whole life working in and hope that it will always remain free to use for ECPs. I have received tremendous support from the OptiBoard community and try my best to provide accurate and up to date information.
just wondering.
Please let me know if you have any more questions.

I think its a great tool, I did not mean to offend, I was just currious about where it came from (if it was a marketing tool for one of the big lens companies or somesuch) my bad. I am new to optiboard and was out of the loop.
can you explain how you make the maps? again I am out of the loop, and if its on the websight my bad again for not reading everything on the sight.
I kind of always assumed when e was showing me their lens compared to someone elses that they could draw the pretty colors anyway they wanted to.
It is nice to know that this is an independent source with no leanings toward any particular brand or company.
thankyou.

**TLG** · 04-15-2010, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by ih8wlmrt

I think its a great tool, I did not mean to offend, I was just currious about where it came from (if it was a marketing tool for one of the big lens companies or somesuch) my bad. I am new to optiboard and was out of the loop.
can you explain how you make the maps? again I am out of the loop, and if its on the websight my bad again for not reading everything on the sight.
I kind of always assumed when e was showing me their lens compared to someone elses that they could draw the pretty colors anyway they wanted to.
It is nice to know that this is an independent source with no leanings toward any particular brand or company.
thankyou.

It's great to have you with us on OptiBoard...Welcome!!! :cheers:

**Uncle Fester** · 04-20-2010, 03:10 PM

Harry C's mailbox is full.

Braheem- Can I forward my Rodenstock lenses to you? PM me with an address??

**Happylady** · 04-20-2010, 07:42 PM

Could someone explain how to read the maps? I don't quite understand what I am looking at when I look at the cylinder maps.

On the plano +2.00 maps I know that the darkest blue is the area with the least distortion or astigmatism and the yellow and green areas are higher distortion. But how can I tell how wide the channel is? Do I look at the cylinder map, it seems to show the channel.