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    Does anyone here have any first hand experience with the Mr Blue setup by Essilor?

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    Has anyone priced out the MEI 641 edger? I know this is an old thread but technology must have moved forward by now.I have been considering a new edger, my CTD Kappa is what I am using now. I have been pretty happy with it but after 5 years I thought there might be something better that handles the drilling and higher base curve wrap sunglasses. The Nidek me1200 is also a possibility and maybe a mr Blue. Any others with some opinion?
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    You should check out the Essilor Mr Blue and Mr Orange? They both can drill, chamfer, shelf bevel for high base and groove. Mr Blue has a milling bit to eliminate slippage/crazing of AR lenses while Mr Orange has "star control" (like your CTD but more advanced because of a new pulley system in both edgers). Mr Blue has auto blocking while Mr Orange has auto assist. Been working with Mr Blue since introduced in the US and have not had a lens twist or craze yet while using conventional blocking pads. Also like that it came with an Essibox for remote maintenance, software updates at no charge, frame libraries and the capability of ordering thru VisionWeb with the trace file attached. Just waiting for it to be communicate with a pms so it can load in the job management program.

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    Mr. Blue is very finicky. Water rusts the spindles and enters the GMD, forcing premature failure of the unit. That said, the milling feature is great...when is works properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdeimler View Post
    Mr. Blue is very finicky. Water rusts the spindles and enters the GMD, forcing premature failure of the unit. That said, the milling feature is great...when is works properly.
    Essilor are currently releasing a new generation GMD which has no water penetration problems.This should be available to exsisting owners as an upgrade.

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    I have been told my Kappa Edger needs a new arm (5K). Having it installed is an unreal amount that is completely out of the question. Has anyone ever installed one - was it difficult (my husband is very mechanical)? I priced Mr Blue and am not satisfied with my current edger's trade-in value. What edger does the group suggest (if I am not able to repair my current one)? Should I buy a new Kappa - and if so, should I look at a used one from Leo?


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    Definitely see what Leo at VSI can do for you. I would however look at either a Santinelli 9000 or a N.O. Horizon 6 or 7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
    Definitely see what Leo at VSI can do for you. I would however look at either a Santinelli 9000 or a N.O. Horizon 6 or 7
    I see that you suggest a N. O. Horizon 6 or 7.

    I believe that they are owned by Essilor. Wouldn't that go against your signature line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fezz View Post
    I see that you suggest a N. O. Horizon 6 or 7.

    I believe that they are owned by Essilor. Wouldn't that go against your signature line?
    I'm not against a pre-Essilor machine. All H 6's and a lot of H 7's were made before the takeover. I'm thinking about buying a Horizon 3 and it doesn't really bother me.
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    No edgers made in Italy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optomitrix Prime View Post
    If this cost under 25k for part and shipping i would definitely purchase from Italy!
    - until then I'm gonna stick to my reliable 7070pcm!
    no edgers made in Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpticalDude View Post
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    Kappa over a 9000 any day of the week. I don't believe they even make 9000’s anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
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    Dang, I should have been more clear on this I guess, COUNTER TOP edger, or an edger that fits this actual discussion, an edger a Doctor will buy, a non-robotic CNC edger under 1ook.

    Or did you miss the fact that I was pocking at the person who actually thinks the Santinelli is made in Italy instead of Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpticalDude View Post

    Or did you miss the fact that I was pocking at the person who actually thinks the Santinelli is made in Italy instead of Japan.
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    I would look at a Weco 580 or 680 from ATI, very happy with mine. AIT has great support, and Matt is pretty knowledgeable. Its not has advanced as the Santinelli, but I am willing to give up 5% in potential for 30% less in cost.


    Quote Originally Posted by kbodum View Post
    I have been told my Kappa Edger needs a new arm (5K). Having it installed is an unreal amount that is completely out of the question. Has anyone ever installed one - was it difficult (my husband is very mechanical)? I priced Mr Blue and am not satisfied with my current edger's trade-in value. What edger does the group suggest (if I am not able to repair my current one)? Should I buy a new Kappa - and if so, should I look at a used one from Leo?
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    I have used both Santinelli & AIT edgers & pleased with the performance of both. They are both user friendly & the finished work is great. We are using the AIT exclusively now. The tech support has been great. I know if you go direct or deal with Leo @ VSI, you will be pleased. Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by newboy View Post
    Essilor are currently releasing a new generation GMD which has no water penetration problems.This should be available to exsisting owners as an upgrade.
    I wonder if they are going to change it for free here!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LENNY View Post
    I wonder if they are going to change it for free here!?!?
    They should.

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    As you all suggested, I recently used Leo and Dave at Vision Systems for edger repair. I wanted to praise and recommend their service to others - and thank this forum for the money saving recommendation!


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    Quote Originally Posted by kbodum View Post
    As you all suggested, I recently used Leo and Dave at Vision Systems for edger repair. I wanted to praise and recommend their service to others - and thank this forum for the money saving recommendation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbodum View Post
    As you all suggested, I recently used Leo and Dave at Vision Systems for edger repair. I wanted to praise and recommend their service to others - and thank this forum for the money saving recommendation!

    What??? I thought VSI only repaired their units????

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Garza View Post
    What??? I thought VSI only repaired their units????
    Sometimes we have to make very special exceptions and this was one of them. :)
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