Telephone eyewear sales reps needed

**Scott Wedner** · 04-05-2009, 08:17 AM

TELEPHONE EYEWEAR SALES REPS NEEDED

Commissions, Weekends Off, Work from home at your hours
Supportive Management Team, Work your pace, perfect for opticians with time.
All you need to be considered is a positive attitude, a
professional telephone manner and a desired to make money!!
We need individuals that are NOT AFRAID OF THE PHONES, but rather embrace making back to back calls and helping people. We need genuine outbound sales professionals dedicated to client satisfaction, having fun while working, and making money!
The ideal candidate will be provided an account list and the ability to make an unlimited income.Schedule an interview TODAY! 1-800-852-7857, extension 118

**Scott Wedner** · 04-06-2009, 07:52 AM

Or i can be emailed at srw52@aol.com

**EyeFitWell** · 04-18-2009, 07:22 AM

Scott,
Are these sales reps selling frames or complete eyewear?

**DragonLensmanWV** · 04-20-2009, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by EyeFitWell

Scott,
Are these sales reps selling frames or complete eyewear?

That would be frames, New Millennium.

**Flipgirl** · 05-11-2009, 05:34 PM

do you have a website to view your line?

**Scott Wedner** · 05-11-2009, 05:38 PM

Our site is under construction. For now, please Google Lido West Eyeworks and use those sites to get the flavor of the lines.

**ralf1031** · 05-12-2009, 06:36 AM

Scott,

Please inform everyone that these are COLD calls only! Please advise on the exact job discription upfront to avoid potential confusion later......:finger:

**hcjilson** · 05-12-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by ralf1031

Scott,

Please inform everyone that these are COLD calls only! Please advise on the exact job discription upfront to avoid potential confusion later......:finger:

A professional sales rep is not afraid of cold calls. Statistically he/she will know from the git-go how many calls it takes to make a sale. A sales rep also knows you may have to make multiple calls over a long period of time in order to establish a relationship which results in a sale. The important thing a professional sales rep has learned is that you have to WORK to get that sale. It isn't going to come from the company you represent, they are only giving you the TOOLS to do the job. The rest is up to you.

**ralf1031** · 05-12-2009, 09:31 PM

I have been in the Optical field for over 23 years as an owner,dispensing optician and a traveling optician. COLD calling is not the way for good results, maybe if the company in question first gets in contact with the opticals on the list and pre-qualifies them, that might work. this is a medical field no matter how you want to twist it, and as such it needs to be treated as that! Maybe you want to change the format and have it become a tele-marketing situation. GOOD LUCK!!!!!

**hcjilson** · 05-13-2009, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by ralf1031

Scott,

Please inform everyone that these are COLD calls only! Please advise on the exact job discription upfront to avoid potential confusion later......:finger:

Ralf
I hope you show those who cold call on you a little more courtesy than you showed Scott in the post above. You don't have to buy, but common courtesy goes a long way in making both parties feel comfortable. hj

**ralf1031** · 05-13-2009, 06:09 AM

Tell me something, how do you figure any disrespect from the above message? Reality says, it just wont work and is not meant to be used as a tool in the medical field. Maybe selling cell phones or books is the way it will work, NOT in this instant. Please, stop fighting for him and let him explain to this forum how it will work. Why does he not offer a draw salary if it is so great and wonderful? I wanted to try this and received the list from him(about 100 pages) and you know what, on the first page, more than half of the contacts were so out dated. I know these companies and their respected buyers and the list was just off base. Speak not of something you don't know. I saw this first handed and was disapointed as to the tools provided.

**HarryChiling** · 05-13-2009, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by ralf1031

Tell me something, how do you figure any disrespect from the above message? Reality says, it just wont work and is not meant to be used as a tool in the medical field. Maybe selling cell phones or books is the way it will work, NOT in this instant. Please, stop fighting for him and let him explain to this forum how it will work. Why does he not offer a draw salary if it is so great and wonderful? I wanted to try this and received the list from him(about 100 pages) and you know what, on the first page, more than half of the contacts were so out dated. I know these companies and their respected buyers and the list was just off base. Speak not of something you don't know. I saw this first handed and was disapointed as to the tools provided.

As a fromer outbound sales rep, a few things I have to clarify:

Outdated contacts means this list may or may nto have been beaten, if it's still fresh it's a great opportunity, if it's beat it requires more work but it's still not a lost cause.
The average numbers of outbound sales says that for every 100 calls you make you'll have 10 legitamate leads and half of those could be sales and this is conservative, factor in that you are calling opticals that definately use the products you are selling and your leads are already prequalified, factor further that the company has an established name in our industry and you have a reputation to build upon.
B2B (Buisness to Business) sales is a whole lot better than, residential sales. Imagien calling people at home when they're at dinner trying to sell them long distance? The people usually take some real abuse as sales people, but in a business the person on the other end of the phone is at work and usually conducts themselves in a professional manner, this means the calls are less draining from a morale perspective which means it's easier for the sales person to pick up the phone and move on to the next call.

This sounds like a legitamate opportunity and offers an optician the ability to stay home with kids and still work. It isn't easy but it's a job and could be a great gig. I would suggest that anyone taking the position sit down and come up with a pseudo script for what they believe the average phone call would be and come up with rebuttals to the most common objections, like:

I'm busy right now.
When is a good time to call you back and discuss this opportunity?

I get stuff cheaper than that.
What is the average price point that your looking for?

Any outbound sales position is going to be difficult at first, you have to develop your mojo as I like to call it get a good groove. It is going to be very important to keep pristine records of your calls to help build report on future calls even when you don't make a sale the smallest thing you may remember about the contact may be enough to get them to listen to your pitch on future calls which increases your chances of closing on the sale.

Originally Posted by ralf1031

I have been in the Optical field for over 23 years as an owner,dispensing optician and a traveling optician.

Optician does not equal Sales Professional, they are two very different fields and should be treated as such. Sure some opticians can be great sales people and some sales people can be great opticians, but they are different jobs altogether. So your 23 years in our industry doesn't give any credibility to your statement concerning the job, from a business owners standpoitn I can understand.

**ralf1031** · 05-13-2009, 11:08 AM

Tell me something, what were you selling? I never said it is not possible to do but I simply started by saying the the advertised post by Scott should include the fact that the position requires cold calling. I was mislead and I am trying to prevent anyone else down that path. Anything is possible, I had a friend who could sell ice in hell. There is a job for everyone out there, however every position should be clarified upfront!

I consider my self a AAA Optician with AAA sales ability. The optical field is very tuff for sales reps when the show up at the store front and the store is busy. Can you imagine receiving phone calls from reps during business hours and sitting there to try and purchase frame that you can not even see?

Everyone needs to be realistic and look at the big picture...........:hammer:

**hcjilson** · 05-13-2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by ralf1031

Tell me something, what were you selling? I never said it is not possible to do but I simply started by saying the the advertised post by Scott should include the fact that the position requires cold calling. I was mislead and I am trying to prevent anyone else down that path. Anything is possible, I had a friend who could sell ice in hell. There is a job for everyone out there, however every position should be clarified upfront!

I consider my self a AAA Optician with AAA sales ability. The optical field is very tuff for sales reps when the show up at the store front and the store is busy. Can you imagine receiving phone calls from reps during business hours and sitting there to try and purchase frame that you can not even see?

Everyone needs to be realistic and look at the big picture...........:hammer:

You were looking for evidence of a lack of courtesy a few posts ago. I would maintain that the use of the color red in your original post was not particularly courteous. I would follow that up by your statement of what a member SHOULD post in his own thread. That belies a bit of arrogance that even 23 years in the industry can't excuse.(I can say that because I had 27 years already in, the year you started)

You say something can't be done: " Reality says, it [phone sales} just wont work and is not meant to be used as a tool in the medical field.
And then you say: "I never said it [phone sales] is not possible to do"
That is known as being hoisted by your own petard, and that is never comfortable.

If you need further illustration of a lack of respect, re-read your comment to Harry C. Perhaps it was not meant that way and I'll be the first to give you the benefit of the doubt, but that's the way it came across.

My point here is that we should excercise some common courtesy when we communicate with one another, and when you have a problem with a post, or a poster, just use the Private Message function to straighten it out. I would have done that in this case, but you asked me to show you where you were disrespectful. There, I've done it......hj

**ralf1031** · 05-13-2009, 01:32 PM

You need to get a life! Goodbye............

**hcjilson** · 05-13-2009, 07:07 PM

Some sage advice- you need to stop telling other people what to do!

**ralf1031** · 05-13-2009, 08:30 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!

**Scott Wedner** · 05-13-2009, 09:09 PM

Dear HC and Harry,
Thank you so much for pointing out to a cheap shot artist that being disrespectful has no place on this well run board. Unfortuantely, this fellow was looking to roll out of bed and into easy money with almost no work or effort involved. I explained to him my explanation of what took place and that just wasn't good enough for him. Because he is not working, I guess he has nothing else to do but worry about this position that I was offering. And how to bad mouth me. If he spent this much energy trying to be a contributing member of society, it would help all of us. Even folks collecting disability can help contibute to society.
The position is now closed, but I did give 7 people hope to earn additional income in these very difficult economic times. One rep started today, cold called 8 accounts and sold 2 of them. What a wonderful start for her.
Thank you again and I hope this frustrated fellow turns his efforts to positive things.
Scott Wedner

**hcjilson** · 05-14-2009, 07:43 AM

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Anyone who is not working in these times has problems which create frustration and anger which can occasionally override an otherwise polite demeanor. I was briefly unemployed in the early 90's and I know how badly that affected me. Maybe that's the reason I am still working, long after my peers are mumbling that I may be "past it!" :):):)

**gemstone** · 05-14-2009, 08:24 AM

I never liked the term "Cold calling". I like to call it fresh calling, or new business calling. Cold calling creates such a negative perception. This is where the salesman makes their money. If you ever heard that there is a lot of money to be made in sales, it's doing the fresh calls! I might add that it is clearly apparent why this person (ralf)would fail at such an endeavor.

**ralf1031** · 05-14-2009, 12:16 PM

Just so everyone knows, I am employed! I am on workmans compensation due to an accident in Alaska. To set the record straight, I was hired by Scott under the information I received from him that all the contacts on the list provided have been contacted. He then changed that and I was informed it was cold calling. My original post was to please have him just state that in his new help wanted post so that no one else would be confused later like I was. That is when so many folks came crashing down on me without knowing the history of facts between Scott and I. I for one want to move on, will everyone else do the same?

**ralf1031** · 05-14-2009, 12:19 PM

Wether you like the term or not, it is what it is. I didn't try because I was mislead, not because I was afraid to fail.

**hcjilson** · 05-14-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by ralf1031

Wether you like the term or not, it is what it is. I didn't try because I was mislead, not because I was afraid to fail.

There you have it , He didn't try....(for whatever reason) How can you knock something you haven't tried? I believe ralf has misrepresented not only himself (yesterday he was an optician in Virginia, and today he's in an Other eyecare related field in Germany!) but his experience with this company as well. I would take each of his comments with a grain of salt. I'm having trouble keeping up with this....the position has been filled and this thread is closed.