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    Beg to differ.....

    Eisenhower, Truman, and Washington all had extensive "administrative experience" before becoming president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hcjilson View Post
    Eisenhower, Truman, and Washington all had extensive "administrative experience" before becoming president.
    Truman was a judge and a senator

    Washington and Eisenhower were military men (Generals). I do not think that is the same as governor.

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    I think you meant senator in the above post!

    "Truman was elected in 1922, to be one of three judges of the Jackson County Court. Judge Truman whose duties were in fact administrative rather than judicial, built a reputation for honesty and efficiency in the management of county affairs."

    Key word here is administrative- If you would like to learn more about what that job entailed, I would refer you to Truman by David McCulloch. Further, regarding his senate career :

    " After being reelected in 1940, Truman gained national prominence as chairman of the Senate Special Committee to Investigate the National Defense Program. This committee, which came to be called the Truman Committee, sought with considerable success to ensure that defense contractors delivered to the nation quality goods at fair prices."

    I would refer you to the same book for a gander at what the Truman Committee accomplished and maintain that Truman had extensive administrative experience and skills.

    Regarding Washington and Eisenhower, they were a little more than Generals. Washington organized an army to take on the largest military force in the world in a war that lasted 7 years and Eisenhower administered Operation Overlord which needs no explanation.

    They all lacked experience as "heads of state" but managed to accomplish the job in exemplary fashion.I think we should give the benefit of the doubt to the new President who, undoubtedly will make mistakes, but has shown us he learns from them.
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    Administering a military organization and a political organization are very different things.

    And to suggest that administering a presidential campaign that lasts 20 months and has a staff of tens of thousands doesn't require administration and organization greater than than that of a judge is weak at best.

    The point is, who of these men "governed" before being elected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubendol View Post
    Administering a military organization and a political organization are very different things.
    How??

    Quote Originally Posted by Grubendol View Post
    And to suggest that administering a presidential campaign that lasts 20 months and has a staff of tens of thousands doesn't require administration and organization greater than than that of a judge is weak at best..
    You are forgetting the Truman Committee and before you are tempted to say it was nothing, do a little research about what that involved. McCulloch's work is definitive. It was not me that said a 20 month campaign didn't show any administration, I only took issue with the list of presidents with no administrative experience. Please re-read the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grubendol View Post
    The point is, who of these men "governed" before being elected?
    Each one I listed for reasons stated.
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    Gee, wasn't the last 20 months of this political headbanging enough? Let's look forward to recovering from this... regardless as to whom you want to blame for how we got here.
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    all I have to say is Democrat president ... democrat majority in house and senate...... something will get done ... whether or not it will be good or bad will remain to be seen.... but dangit it will get done



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubendol View Post
    Administering a military organization and a political organization are very different things.
    Does this statement come from personal experience or is it just an opinion?

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