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    Great trouble with Jai Kudo WideView

    I have had great trouble with Jai Kudo WideView FreeForm lenses in the past. Although they are FreeForm (or because of that???) we have had many non-adapts even when the Patients were already Progressive clients for a long time...
    We switched them then to something like Rodenstock PureLife and ALL problems disappeared.
    Has anybody had the same problems with these lenses ?
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    I have been told they use seiko software to make their lenses having been told that you expect them to be good
    However I have had terrible results especially with their ulta short (15mm)
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    Exclamation I guess that is why the prices are so low!!

    You must get what you pay for!

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    Thank you Craig

    Yes, they are damn cheap and so a dissapointment is O.K. But they made such a "hey" about their product that I expected a little bit more than this... You know 30% more vision field blah, blah...
    Even our beloved Progressiv SI that is even cheaper and is a conventional design works much better!

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    Something funny...
    Phoned JaiKudo Germany today because on their german Homepage there no sign of their 1.58 WideView anymore, but in their printed price list it is ???
    The kind woman on the phone said "Er, there never was a 1.58 Material, our printed list is wrong, it alway was 1.55"...
    That means all 1.58 I ordered were in fact 1.55 !!!
    Does anybody knows were there are produced? I've heard something of India? Research on google without success.

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    Jai Kudo ships from England to the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by JanMueller View Post
    Something funny...
    Phoned JaiKudo Germany today because on their german Homepage there no sign of their 1.58 WideView anymore, but in their printed price list it is ???
    The kind woman on the phone said "Er, there never was a 1.58 Material, our printed list is wrong, it alway was 1.55"...
    That means all 1.58 I ordered were in fact 1.55 !!!
    Does anybody knows were there are produced? I've heard something of India? Research on google without success.
    I know they import them for the US market from London England.

    www.jaikudo.com

    Caig

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    I heard that they are made in India using 10 year old Seiko software

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    Quote Originally Posted by apaul View Post
    I heard that they are made in India using 10 year old Seiko software
    I have no idea about their product and I am in no way, shape or form associated with Jai Kudo but I will say that many of the traditional progressive lenses on the market can claim to be older than 10 years.

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    I know comfort is 20 years old now! I haven't used their lenses before but I have heard a rumor about some new lens they are supposed to be launching. Does anyone know about it??

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    you are come from germany, why dont you support germany lenses RODENSTOCK?
    good product doesnt come cheap!

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    you are come from germany, why dont you support germany lenses RODENSTOCK?
    good product doesnt come cheap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacCon View Post
    I know comfort is 20 years old now! I haven't used their lenses before but I have heard a rumor about some new lens they are supposed to be launching. Does anyone know about it??
    being launched tomorrow apparently
    ( a new Jai kudo wideview)
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    McConn:
    It's 20 years old now and you haven't used it yet? It's one of the best. Please understand, new isn't nescessiarily better. Varilux seldom even mentions it's successor by name now. Is calling new product improved comfort. I think it is even going to call some of it's free form product ???? comfort.
    But if you have been waiting 20 years to see how it works out before trying the comfort, I doubt if you will still be in the industry before you try any new product even if it does happen to be better.

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    It was Jai Kudo Wideview I haven't used, sorry for the confusion. I'm tempted to try it though (Wideview that is), it's cheaper than other lenses and pretty good I'm told.

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    New Wideview Zenix Lens

    Dear All,

    Please allow me to introduce myself; my name is Jamie Holoran and I am the MD of Jai Kudo. Earlier today I was sent a link to this thread and I have read with interest your comments on our (Jai Kudo's) Wideview lens. I thought it only polite to respond:

    Just to clarify, our new lens launches on 16th March and is called the WIDEVIEW-ZENIX. It has been developed over the past twelve months in association with specialist mapping programmers, and what we have done is quite simple: we've looked at the product specifically from the wearer's perspective, fine tuning the pantoscopic curvature, wrapping angle and vertex distance to minimise unwanted astigmatism and achieve an unprecedented level of performance in the specific areas where it matters most to the patient. All the trials of this lens have met with extremely positive feedback, many long-term progressive wearers telling us its the best vision they've had from any lenses.

    To avoid this sounding like a sales pitch (which it honestly is not intended to be), I would concede that our WIDEVIEW ORIGINAL, though still popular with many Jai Kudo customers, effectively represents an early incarnation of freeform technology and (I have to admit) does not compete in any way with the comfort and performance of the new WIDEVIEW-ZENIX.

    If you're interested in offering your patients the benefits of freeform, please go straight for the Wideview Zenix and bypass the Original as there's really no comparison.

    I hope this helps clarify what's happening.

    Kind Regards,

    JH

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    Thank You Jamie

    Thank you very much for your answer to my Thread.
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    You're welcome

    No problem Jan. I'd be keen to hear your thoughts once you've tried it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieHoloran View Post
    No problem Jan. I'd be keen to hear your thoughts once you've tried it.
    Anybody used the Wideview Zenix yet?

    alan

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    No I haven't. This thread is a year old, but since we're on the subject I still find the Comfort a simple easy lens to use no matter how old. After all these years do you know what the top selling Ice Cream is?? Yep, good old Vanilla! Why? Because it's still pretty good. :p
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    Is there a website for Jai Kudo??

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    Yip!
    www.Jaikudo.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
    Is there a website for Jai Kudo??

    http://www.jaikudo.com/lenses/all/index.php?lang=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by FVCCHRIS View Post
    No I haven't. This thread is a year old, but since we're on the subject I still find the Comfort a simple easy lens to use no matter how old. After all these years do you know what the top selling Ice Cream is?? Yep, good old Vanilla! Why? Because it's still pretty good. :p
    Didn't think it necessary to start a new thread
    My major prob with Essilor is that their prices are too high for the area where I am based which is one of the poorest boroughs in london
    So I have to look at alternatives I would love to sell Comfort & Physio! but I Cant!

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    I'm looking for something that can be sold as a generic progressive here in the States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
    I'm looking for something that can be sold as a generic progressive here in the States.
    Look into the Younger Image. It has been my generic for many years.

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