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    Confused Dye the plastic or acetate frame

    Hi friends,
    does any one know how to change the color on plastic or acetate frames?
    I am sure there are some type of chemicals dye to do this, but I don't know how is the manufacturer or distributer of it. Thanks

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    Redhot Jumper tint optical frames.............................

    Quote Originally Posted by FSTAB View Post
    Hi friends,
    does any one know how to change the color on plastic or acetate frames?
    I am sure there are some type of chemicals dye to do this, but I don't know how is the manufacturer or distributer of it. Thanks
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    Absolutely no problem. Heat MicroTint dye of any color you want in the microwave to a slight boil. Take out of microwave and insert frame into dye, will take about 10 seconds and it is done.

    see all of it at http://optochemicals.com

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    Sorry, but I'm gullible, and I must make sure...wouldn't the frame melt? Are you being serious?

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    I've dyed frames in my regular dye unit for years. Chris' stuff probably works as well, though I've only used it for lenses.

    Remember, the air warmer or bead pan gets much hotter than either the dye unit or the boiling point for the Micro-Tints. How long were you planning to leave the frame in?

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    BPI does or did make tints just for this purpose. Contact them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ryser View Post
    Absolutely no problem. Heat MicroTint dye of any color you want in the microwave to a slight boil. Take out of microwave and insert frame into dye, will take about 10 seconds and it is done.

    see all of it at http://optochemicals.com

    What about frames with metal parts, i.e. hinges, screws, trim, etc. That might damage either the frame or the microwave. Though Mythbusters proved that microwaves are more durable than you are led to believe. But there is the possibility of frame damage.
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    You don't cook the frame in the microwave. You heat up the dye stuff to boiling and then take it out and put the lenses, or in this case the frame, in the plastic pot.

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    Redhot Jumper It actually works....................

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonLensmanWV View Post
    What about frames with metal parts, i.e. hinges, screws, trim, etc. That might damage either the frame or the microwave. Though Mythbusters proved that microwaves are more durable than you are led to believe. But there is the possibility of frame damage.
    1) No problem with metal in a microwave. Have one with a metal oven rack smack in the middle.

    2) No problem with frame......you wont even have to cook it. Bring dyes to a slight boil.....remove from oven.........insert frame into dye for 10 second and it's tinted.

    3) I have some clear acetate and optyl frames I tinted with plano CR39.

    4) lenses mounted. Tinted them for 60 seconds and lenses and frame are the same sunglass shade. No damage to frames and or parts.

    5) we even have a lens holder containing metal, ...........also no problem.


    6) This is now 10 years since we started to perfect MicroTints and it is working,......not only for glasses actually for anything plastic that is tint able.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ryser View Post
    1) No problem with metal in a microwave. Have one with a metal oven rack smack in the middle.

    2) No problem with frame......you wont even have to cook it. Bring dyes to a slight boil.....remove from oven.........insert frame into dye for 10 second and it's tinted.

    3) I have some clear acetate and optyl frames I tinted with plano CR39.

    4) lenses mounted. Tinted them for 60 seconds and lenses and frame are the same sunglass shade. No damage to frames and or parts.

    5) we even have a lens holder containing metal, ...........also no problem.


    6) This is now 10 years since we started to perfect MicroTints and it is working,......not only for glasses actually for anything plastic that is tint able.

    And nylor string.

    Wanna see something fun? Crumple aluminum foil loosely into balls about as big as a tennis ball and put them in the microwave and nuke them.
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    I've tinted frames before, and it's not difficult. The only problem is getting the color you want. There are many more variables than with lenses.
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    Redhot Jumper Radar trap....................

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonLensmanWV View Post
    Wanna see something fun? Crumple aluminum foil loosely into balls about as big as a tennis ball and put them in the microwave and nuke them.
    .....................much better even, when you take same aluminum ball and hang in front of your radiator of the car and you will scerw up every radar trap by the cops. They wont be able to read your speed as radar goes haywire. :bbg:

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    Chris:

    Mythbusters tried that aluminum foil trick dozens of ways, none affected the Radar at all.

    Chip

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    Quote Originally Posted by chip anderson View Post
    Chris:

    Mythbusters tried that aluminum foil trick dozens of ways, none affected the Radar at all.

    Chip

    Right, Chip. Does the word chaff mean anything? I had a friend tell me one time he got aluminum wheels on his car so the radar wouldn't pick him up. I told him to remember that they used to use aluminum foil strips to reflect radar.

    Not to mention most states use laser LIDAR now.
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    Redhot Jumper

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonLensmanWV View Post

    Not to mention most states use laser LIDAR now.

    Your right and foils dont work anymore. However it did work against the old regular radar. When I grew up iduring world war 2 in Switzerland we often found pounds of aluminum strips on the ground after the US airforce had bombing raids in neihbouring Germany and flew back over Swiss territory to deflect the radars..

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    Blasphemy!

    I hope you guys are not suggesting that my tin foil fedora is ineffective against; The Man!

    ;):cheers::cheers::shiner:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fezz View Post
    I hope you guys are not suggesting that my tin foil fedora is ineffective against; The Man!

    ;):cheers::cheers::shiner:
    Keep wearing it, some nice men in white coats will be along to help you with it.

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    I flew in c-47's in Nam that had aluminum foil under the wings to deflect ground radar.

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    Blue Jumper aluminum foil under the wings ...............

    Quote Originally Posted by THE MEB View Post
    I flew in c-47's in Nam that had aluminum foil under the wings to deflect ground radar.
    ..........................which means it still worked in the late 60s and early 70s.

    In today's world microwaves have a much wider use than just radar, from cell phones to heating plastic pellets before injection molding and not last the use of tinting plastic, as lenses for example , much faster and safer than the toxic fumes emitting old tinting units.

    And to get back to the theme of this thread, yes you can tint frames..................very easily in about 10 seconds without any damage to any part if the optical frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fezz View Post
    I hope you guys are not suggesting that my tin foil fedora is ineffective against; The Man!

    ;):cheers::cheers::shiner:

    Psssst, Fezz! YOU ARE THE MAN!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_f_aboc View Post
    psssst, fezz! you are the man!


    Doh!!!!!

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    [quote=Chris Ryser;260787]..........................which means it still worked in the late 60s and early 70s.


    But not for getting you out of a ticket. Realize this: put a spinning piece of foil in front of your radiator. Now, drive the car towards old-fashioned police radar and set the ball spinning. What happens is this. The spinning ball of foil will deflect the tiny portion of the overall radar beam that hits it, but at least once in every rotation it will be pointing back to the radar and will thus reflect back directly to the radar receiver. Meanwhile, the entire front of your car is busily reflecting back at the radar like crazy causing you to be detected. And busted if you're exceeding the police's tolerance. Nothing works against police radar, not foil spinning, not a chaff cannon,not diffraction foil, not infrared LEDs, nothing. You can detect it and slow down, unless they're running intermittently, but once they beam you, you're caught.
    It's a myth that anything does.
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    Allright Mr Wise Guy, I've got you this time.

    [quote=DragonLensmanWV;260802][quote=Chris Ryser;260787It's a myth that anything does.[/quote]

    Chris,

    I have found a flaw in your theory, and while it may not be 100% scientific, I think you'll be forced into recognizing your error.:finger:

    My car has no tin foil on the front of it, and in the last year I've received 3 tickets for speeding.

    On the other hand, when I jog along the road, I wrap my entire body in tin foil (Dollar General brand-it's only $1.50 a roll), and although I've received some strange looks, I've never once come close to getting a ticket while jogging.

    What do you think about THAT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns View Post

    Chris,

    I have found a flaw in your theory, and while it may not be 100% scientific, I think you'll be forced into recognizing your error.:finger:

    My car has no tin foil on the front of it, and in the last year I've received 3 tickets for speeding.

    On the other hand, when I jog along the road, I wrap my entire body in tin foil (Dollar General brand-it's only $1.50 a roll), and although I've received some strange looks, I've never once come close to getting a ticket while jogging.

    What do you think about THAT?
    I think that to make this a totally scientific test, you will have to wrap your entire body in aluminum foil and stand on top of Fezz's car while he speeds up and down Las Vegas Blvd at VEW to see if you can avoid the tickets.

    I just wish I could be there to see it.
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    [quote=bob_f_aboc;260839]
    Quote Originally Posted by Johns View Post
    I just wish I could be there to see it.
    Why? You don't think that'd make CNN?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_f_aboc View Post
    i think that to make this a totally scientific test, you will have to wrap your entire body in aluminum foil and stand on top of fezz's car while he speeds up and down las vegas blvd at vew to see if you can avoid the tickets.

    I just wish i could be there to see it.

    hah!

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