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    When do you use 1.56?

    We order stock cr39 and poly SV lenses from a local stockhouse. They also have 1.56 on their menu (at approximately the same price as the other two) but I've never used it. We use Poly for most jobs and cr39 if the patient doesn't want the poly upgrade. For higher prescriptions we tend to surface with poly 1.0 or we use 1.67. I don't quite see the need for 1.56 or in what circumstances I would use it. Theoretically, we could replace our cr39 with 1.56 if there are any real advantages.

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    It's a good alternative to poly with superior acuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilanh View Post
    We order stock cr39 and poly SV lenses from a local stockhouse. They also have 1.56 on their menu (at approximately the same price as the other two) but I've never used it. We use Poly for most jobs and cr39 if the patient doesn't want the poly upgrade. For higher prescriptions we tend to surface with poly 1.0 or we use 1.67. I don't quite see the need for 1.56 or in what circumstances I would use it. Theoretically, we could replace our cr39 with 1.56 if there are any real advantages.

    In my experience the 1.56 product is thinner and lighter than CR-39, not as thin or as safe as poly but better optics. I think it is also a bit on the brittle side and does not do particularly well in rimless. 1.60 would be a lot better, it has more tensile strength, is thinner, and has better ABBE values than the 1.56 or the 1.67. If 1.60 is not thin enough for our customers, we jump to Hoya 1.70.

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    In my experience the 1.56 product is thinner and lighter than CR-39, not as thin or as safe as poly but better optics. I think it is also a bit on the brittle side and does not do particularly well in rimless. 1.60 would be a lot better, it has more tensile strength, is thinner, and has better ABBE values than the 1.56 or the 1.67.
    Good Point.

    I generally use 1.56 for plus prescriptions in full frames. It seems to balance weight, thickness, and higher abbe better than does poly. I try to avoid poly for most things. +3.00 to +5.00 works well with this index (Spectralite).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbanting69 View Post
    Good Point.

    I generally use 1.56 for plus prescriptions in full frames. It seems to balance weight, thickness, and higher abbe better than does poly. I try to avoid poly for most things. +3.00 to +5.00 works well with this index (Spectralite).

    I mostly use EvoClear from Armorlite in the +/- 5 range.
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    The advantage is limited. It's actually more brittle and easier to flake than CR-39. I even see full metal frames w/1.56 that are flaked.

    I use it for higher plus in medicaid (stock only)
    AR doesn't adhere well to it. SCR doesn't adhere well either

    It comes in high cyl from ELOA. That's an advantage for medicaid jobs that would otherwise need to be surfaced or use Resolution at a much higher price.

    I also use it for readers over 3.00 or so. I never buy it surfaced because it it too expensive. No benefit for a surfaced lens, except for a rare instance where you need an extra-thick blank for 10D of prism.

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    I've never used it until now. Just had someone give me about 1000 pairs for the charity work.

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    I used to use it exclusively for my higher RX tint jobs!

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    trivex, trivex, trivex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karen View Post
    trivex, trivex, trivex.
    How does it tints/neutralises??

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    We use 1.56 as an inexpensive alternative to jobs that fall over the -4 range. Never had a problem with it flaking or with coatings peeling. 99% of the time we sell it with an AR coat but I've tinted a couple in the last week or 2 and they turned out nicely.

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    I've only had a chance to try 3 or 4 pairs of the ones given to us, but it seems OK. I don't know why more of it isn't used, it seems to be a good material, so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacqui View Post
    I've only had a chance to try 3 or 4 pairs of the ones given to us, but it seems OK. I don't know why more of it isn't used, it seems to be a good material, so far.

    We also do a lot of 3rd party jobs. When the government says High Index they mean 1.56. Doesn't matter if you're a plus 10 or a minus 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by edKENdance View Post
    We use 1.56 as an inexpensive alternative to jobs that fall over the -4 range. Never had a problem with it flaking or with coatings peeling. 99% of the time we sell it with an AR coat but I've tinted a couple in the last week or 2 and they turned out nicely.
    I was always under the impression that 1.56 was good UP TO 4.00 diopters not OVER 4.00 diopters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfnorth View Post
    I was always under the impression that 1.56 was good UP TO 4.00 diopters not OVER 4.00 diopters.

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    I hope you're totally wrong. :)

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    "When do you use 1.56?"


    Never!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fezz View Post
    "When do you use 1.56?"


    Never!!!!



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    Try to tell the government someone should be bumped into a 1.6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfnorth View Post
    I was always under the impression that 1.56 was good UP TO 4.00 diopters not OVER 4.00 diopters.

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    Well it's my understanding that with an Rx over 4.00 diopters a 1.6 or Poly will control the thickness better.

    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfnorth View Post
    Well it's my understanding that with an Rx over 4.00 diopters a 1.6 or Poly will control the thickness better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edKENdance View Post
    Try to tell the government someone should be bumped into a 1.6.

    THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT!

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    i was wondering if someone could give me a gudeline of approximate powers that should be used for plastic of different refractive indices?

    ie,

    1.5 ... power range +3 to -4
    1.56
    1.6
    1.67
    1.7

    thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mma View Post
    i was wondering if someone could give me a gudeline of approximate powers that should be used for plastic of different refractive indices?

    ie,

    1.5 ... power range +3 to -4
    1.56
    1.6
    1.67
    1.7

    thanks!
    In my humble opinion you wouldn't be needing to ask that question if you had a licensed optician on staff.
    Why on average don't OD's, and you specifically, recognize the value of a licensed optician?

    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfnorth View Post
    In my humble opinion you wouldn't be needing to ask that question if you had a licensed optician on staff.
    Why on average don't OD's, and you specifically, recognize the value of a licensed optician?

    Regards,
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    Good swing. You have hit the nail squarely on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbaker View Post
    Good swing. You have hit the nail squarely on the head.

    I know a lot of opticians that make bad lens choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edKENdance View Post
    I know a lot of opticians that make bad lens choices.

    Or their customers do not want to pay for the right choices!?

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