Are all progressive the same ? a customer

[prism up]

A customer was told by a another optical,that all progressive lens are the same (ie) same mold.

[Judy Canty]

No.

[obxeyeguy]

They probably are,


at that schloctical office.:hammer:

[Uncle Fester]

My life would be a lot easier if they were!

Maybe the concept of how they work is what they meant.

[FullCircle]

If they were, why do I have a 30+ page book with 9 different ones on each page? Life would be so much easier if there was just one.

[prism up]

The "other" optican told him that essilor has one mold and print diffent logo on them ,And can u find any information?

[Jedi]

Optician or sales person?

[FullCircle]

The "other" optican told him that essilor has one mold and print diffent logo on them ,And can u find any information?

this person isn't well educated (props to me, that was the nicest way I could verbalize what I was thinking).

entertaining the idea that they only have one mold, how does said optician explain the short corridor lens they have versus let's say...the Natural. Or why the Accolade has a higher adaption rate than their own Ovation?

Can your optician offer up proof as to what they say is true?

[LadyDie]

All you need to find out is talk to someone who has worn two different lenses from them. The difference can be obvious.

[optical24/7]

The "other" optican told him that essilor has one mold and print diffent logo on them ,And can u find any information?

"One" mold???.......Forget the "logo printer"....That's one busy, (and quick) molding tech!! Hat's off to Essilor for landing this majic employee!

:cheers:

[Johns]

Consumers:

Yes, they absolutely are all the same! The only difference is the price! Some people are greedy and want to charge more so they can send their kids to poison ivy league schools so they can become politicians and drink a lot and crash their cars and have the government pay for it.

Oh, and the packaging is another difference. They change the packaging at the distributors so nobody can tell that they're all the same.

There's an easy way to trace the origin of your lenses...

There is a code that is etched into the lens. It might look like a symbol, and it is. It is the quality assurance mark that each elf is asigned when he masters the art of progressive molding. The numbers indicate the wholesale cost to the eye doctor (most only cost about $2.5 or $1.7).

Now here's the tricky part:

1. Take your glasses apart (simply remove the screws on the side. Your optician will make you think this is difficult, but it's not.)
2. Soak the lenses in an acetone based nail polish remover.
3. After a few hours, the address and website of the manufacturer will appear. (Your optical shop will never admit to this because they know that you can go to the website and buy the lenses yourself for $2.1!!)

Congratulations! You've broken the code.

[gemstone]

The "other" optican told him that essilor has one mold and print diffent logo on them ,And can u find any information?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Now you've done it!

[wolfman]

Consumers:

Yes, they absolutely are all the same! The only difference is the price! Some people are greedy and want to charge more so they can send their kids to poison ivy league schools so they can become politicians and drink a lot and crash their cars and have the government pay for it.

Oh, and the packaging is another difference. They change the packaging at the distributors so nobody can tell that they're all the same.

There's an easy way to trace the origin of your lenses...

There is a code that is etched into the lens. It might look like a symbol, and it is. It is the quality assurance mark that each elf is asigned when he masters the art of progressive molding. The numbers indicate the wholesale cost to the eye doctor (most only cost about $2.5 or $1.7).

Now here's the tricky part:

1. Take your glasses apart (simply remove the screws on the side. Your optician will make you think this is difficult, but it's not.)
2. Soak the lenses in an acetone based nail polish remover.
3. After a few hours, the address and website of the manufacturer will appear. (Your optical shop will never admit to this because they know that you can go to the website and buy the lenses yourself for $2.1!!)

Congratulations! You've broken the code.

Johns
How many people do you think will stumble across this post and will try this? I can't believe you would give away the "code" like that. I am so disappointed in you. :bbg:

[FullCircle]

I ust want to know where to get some of these lab elves. Other than making lenses, can they clean?

[finefocus]

I ust want to know where to get some of these lab elves. Other than making lenses, can they clean?

Lab elves are always dirty, in the several senses; and most of them are proud of it!!!

[FullCircle]

Lab elves are always dirty, in the several senses; and most of them are proud of it!!!

I think I've worked with a few then. LOL!

[HarryChiling]

I ust want to know where to get some of these lab elves. Other than making lenses, can they clean?

They're the ones that get caught drinking on the job at the keebler factory.

[Jacqui]

All plastic lenses are made by Itchywon, Gucci and Sanyo in a baserment just off the Ginza in Tokyo.

[chip anderson]

Many years ago when I was going for my first class scout badge. I made a very fine fire for my cooking merit badge. A tenderfoot watched me make it with small sticks lade out in a square building up into ever larger sticks. One match, good fire.
The tenderfoot came up and asked me how I made such a good fire. I told him I just got some gass for the coleman lanterns and started it (I spent a good hour laying out that fire and he watched).
Well I went away to do something or other and the scoutmaster caught him as he was about to pour a cupfull of gasoline on the fire (had to re-do my cooking merit badge).
I have at other times smarted off with smart *** answers to patient's rediculous questions. A lot of them are fool enough (like the tenderfoot) to take these things seriously (oddly enough very few take good sincere advise, like use castor oil [too simple, doesn't cost enough, not FDA approved] seriously.
Some of these folks will hurt themselves with things someone with common sense would realize is said in jest.

Be carefull because if they do you can guess who's behind will be on the line.

Chip

[DragonLensmanWV]

Durn , if I could just remember his name, there was a guy years ago came in our shop, and told us how he'd gone into the St. Pete Essilor plant and was shown an assembly line. He said these lenses came down a conveyor belt and workers would take one pair and put them in Essilor packages, the next pair into Varilux packages, and so on.
That's probably the same idiot that works at the "other" optical shop that said all were the same.

[au]

Maybe all the low-end PAL are the same, give the basic need of

dist+int+near.

[Chris Ryser]

Maybe all the low-end PAL are the same, give the basic need of

dist+int+near.

All of them are basically the same...........with some differences of more or less distortion on the lens (which is about 40%).........otherwise there would be no reason to charge more or less.

dist+int+near+distortion=progressive

[Johns]

Johns
How many people do you think will stumble across this post and will try this? I can't believe you would give away the "code" like that. I am so disappointed in you. :bbg:

I was having a difficult time sleeping, knowing that I was making so much money. I had to come clean.

My sincere apologies to any of you that may have to give up one of your homes because of this.

At least I can sleep now...

[Ginster]

He worked in Irving Texas for Keebler, He alway's gave me free cookies and cracker's. When he was laid off after 22 years of serivce he trianed in our lab and stayed with us til things got better and they re-hired him. and oddly enough he was pretty clean to. :o

[KKirkpatrick]

John,
This information is erroneous! Soaking a lens in acetone is asking for trouble. The lens would crack if it were made from polycarbonate, not to mention the A/R (anti-reflective) coating would be ruined. I am a licensed optician and have been for over a decade. I am sitting here in my chair wondering why I bothered to sign up for this site, being that all I see on here look like posts from unlicensed people.