Shoreview Progressive Lens

[NOVUS2]

Has anyone used or heard of shoreview progressive lenses?

Our Dr's are switching from varilux lenses to shoreview / shoreview mini lenses. The selling point from our rep is that they are the same lens and manufactured from the same factory in china as varilux comfort and ellipse but 1/3 the price?

[MarcE]

No they are not the same. Maybe made in the same factory, I don't know. I thought many of Essilor's lenses were made in Hong Kong or Thailand, not China.
Shore Lens was purchased by Essilor, but the Shoreview and Mini designs preceeded the buyout. Correct? Someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong. Buyer beware.
Harry C has used them. Maybe he will chime in.

Was that what you wanted to hear?;)

[3rdFord]

We are pretty much exclusively using Shoreview lenses at our clinics. Granted, we are on the low end of pricing in a very economically depressed region of MS...which makes price a big factor for us.

The lens has been good to us, and much like the Younger Image, seems to be available in just about everything (not available in 1.67 yet...but my understanding is that it is coming soon)

[NOVUS2]

Any reviews are helpful,

I'm wary of switching (overnight) from a industry leader to a no name lens, As far a cost we are charging a premium price for this lens so the retail opticians are concerned that it's a quality product.

The bottom line wins again.

[HarryChiling]

No they are not the same. Maybe made in the same factory, I don't know. I thought many of Essilor's lenses were made in Hong Kong or Thailand, not China.
Shore Lens was purchased by Essilor, but the Shoreview and Mini designs preceeded the buyout. Correct? Someone will hopefully correct me if I'm wrong. Buyer beware.
Harry C has used them. Maybe he will chime in.

Was that what you wanted to hear?;)

You have a good memory, they're great lenses. Similar to a Varilux, no lines, and power gains more plus as they reach the bottom.:D No really we use them for our discounts and promotional deals and on occasion to price match a customer. I use alot of what most people think of as bum lenses, if you fit them right almost any progressive will do the trick. I think by similar to varilux what might have been meant is that they are easier to fit or forgiving.

[KStraker]

According to the guy who manufactures Scopus lenses at Ilenco, they also produce the mini for Shore. I think he said that it's the same lens as the Concord Micra from Scopus. We've had good success with the Micra. Made in Israel.

[HarryChiling]

According to the guy who manufactures Scopus lenses at Ilenco, they also produce the mini for Shore. I think he said that it's the same lens as the Concord Micra from Scopus. We've had good success with the Micra. Made in Israel.

So what your saying is if the mini is the same as the varilux, and the micra is the same as the mini, then the micra is the same as the varilux.:D

It's funny what these reps will tell you to make a sale.

[KStraker]

So what your saying is if the mini is the same as the varilux, and the micra is the same as the mini, then the micra is the same as the varilux.:D

It's funny what these reps will tell you to make a sale.

Ah, the transitive property of lens equality. :D
I don't know anything about Varilux, we don't use them, ever. I'm saying the Micra is the same as the mini, according to the manufacturer. Ilenco doesn't have a rep.

[LENNY]

Your patients are not going to be happy!

1. The photocromic function of Shore is terrible. They have about 15-20 brownish grey tint indoors and dont get verrrry dark.
2. 1/3 of the price of VX is too expensive for shore.
3. There is almost no intermediate.
4. If you want to save money find the lab that can do Image, Outlook or XLs at 1/3 of the price of VX
You are still going to have happy campers.


I also absoluytely agree with the statement that all progressives have to be fitted right but I would not say that about Shore.
This is just my personal experience.
We purchased 3 OD practices that were VX only. We switched everyone to a combination of Adaptor, Outlook, XL and Image. (depending on the best deals we could get at certain time)
We do use Shore but only for our $99 specials and i hate to sell them

[Crickett13]

My opinion is if you want to replace the comfort at a good price point try the Platinum by Landon Lens. It is practicly the same design as the Comfort. Years ago we did a blind study of our employees and filled some of the Rx's with comfort and some with the Landon lens. All of the people were originaly in the comfort. Only 1 person noticed a difference and that person liked the Platinum better.

If your lab does not carry it PM me I know a few that do.

[Uncle Fester]

My opinion is if you want to replace the comfort at a good price point try the Platinum by Landon Lens. It is practicly the same design as the Comfort. Years ago we did a blind study of our employees and filled some of the Rx's with comfort and some with the Landon lens. All of the people were originaly in the comfort. Only 1 person noticed a difference and that person liked the Platinum better.

If your lab does not carry it PM me I know a few that do.

Now this is the kind of study I like!:cheers:

[MarcE]

Now this is the kind of study I like!:cheers:

Me too. Single blind study - I love it.

We did the same type study. Result: Ovation beats comfort. Image does not. we also found the Image was better liked by Hyperopes than myopes. I don't know why. Higher BCs??

Fester, could you PM me some labs that carry the Platinum? thanks.

[LENNY]

Me too!

[Fezz]

Me too. Single blind study - I love it.

We did the same type study. Result: Ovation beats comfort. Image does not. we also found the Image was better liked by Hyperopes than myopes. I don't know why. Higher BCs??

Fester, could you PM me some labs that carry the Platinum? thanks.

Interesting......very interesting!

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

[Uncle Fester]

Me too. Single blind study - I love it.

We did the same type study. Result: Ovation beats comfort. Image does not. we also found the Image was better liked by Hyperopes than myopes. I don't know why. Higher BCs??

Fester, could you PM me some labs that carry the Platinum? thanks.

Crickett13 is the one to ask. I've never used the platinum.