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    Transitions VI Tech Notes Released

    Improvements include 30% quicker fade time, better perfomance in hotter temperatures, slightly improved activation time, and clearer and darker states.

    Transitions VI Details

    -Keith
    Last edited by keithbenjamin; 12-22-2007 at 12:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithbenjamin View Post
    Improvements include 30% quicker fade time, better perfomance in hotter temperatures, slightly improved activation time, and clearer and darker states.

    Details

    -Keith
    I was wondering exactly what the difference was. I thought they would go after the InstaShades's faster lightening time.Looks like it still won't lighten up as fast as InstaShades.

    On a related note:
    Cheers to Younger Optics!
    Of the three companies I get Transitions from, they're the ONLY one to call me and make sure I had sent my old stock back in time to replace it with new stock.This is good as some 90% of my Transitions come from Younger.
    Essilor- no calls, but did send printed forms and return materials.
    CZV- nothing! No calls, no materials,no forms, nothing. This leads me to believe they want me to get stuck with old product, just like the last two times they upgraded.
    No more CZV for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonLensmanWV View Post
    Cheers to Younger Optics!
    Of the three companies I get Transitions from, they're the ONLY one to call me and make sure I had sent my old stock back in time to replace it with new stock.This is good as some 90% of my Transitions come from Younger.
    Essilor- no calls, but did send printed forms and return materials.
    CZV- nothing! No calls, no materials,no forms, nothing. This leads me to believe they want me to get stuck with old product, just like the last two times they upgraded.
    No more CZV for me!
    Ditto!

    Younger was by far the easiest (but of course that goes without saying). We did get forms from CZV but they made it clear they didn't want suppliers to return more than two weeks worth without a return charge. Essilor wouldn't accept any product without an RA which we had to repeatedly beg for and didn't get until the 11th hour.

    -Keith

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    Pricing

    Is there a price change? Can I still have the same add-on for my Transitions after the first of the year?

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    Those specifics aren't out yet, but there will be a price increase... of course.

    -Keith

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    OK, so now I've read the new specs...

    These "spec sheets" are just soooo much marketing BS...

    For instance, Transitions claims:

    1. That T6 is darker than T5 after 1 Min (1%)
    2. That T6 is 7% darker than T5 @ 95 degrees (but neglects to include similar specs from T4(NG)
    3. that T6 fades to a 30% absorbtion in only 9 minutes (where T4NG takes an additional 4 minutes (13 total)
    Just when was the last time *you* saw T4NG take 13 m inutes to fade back to 30% absorbtion???)
    4. T6 is clearer than T4NG & T5 (but *only* when an AR coat is added???!!!???)

    Such *spins* on the facts are characteristic of every new Transitions generational development, IMHO.

    FWIW

    Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithbenjamin View Post
    Ditto!

    Younger was by far the easiest (but of course that goes without saying). We did get forms from CZV but they made it clear they didn't want suppliers to return more than two weeks worth without a return charge. Essilor wouldn't accept any product without an RA which we had to repeatedly beg for and didn't get until the 11th hour.

    -Keith
    That's odd, we received the return forms from Essilor with return authorization numbers already on them. We never asked for the forms. They did not specify return numbers. We kept enough to last until the first of the year. They are now gone.

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    Marketing BS? Really? ;)

    At least now you know what VI brings (or does not bring) to the table. I suppose there is something to be said for consolidation across materials.

    There typically has been a price increase on the wholesale end for new Transistions product. Some labs may not pass on the increase immediately or may only do price updates at certain times of the year. We have been assured there will be an increase from Transitions. Still, no idea what it will be, though.

    -Keith

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    CZV told us personally about 2 months ago and organized how we were returning the product at that time. Guess we are their favorite!!;);):p

    and there is a price increase.

    this is primarily to address the darkness issues in poly or so I have been told.
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    Wave

    OMG!
    Good present for holidays!:idea:

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    So, the majority of the *important* changes, compared to TV, is to *fix* that which was broekn in TV (but not TIV).

    This is an advance?

    Barry

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