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    Question What is considered BEST PRACTICE for a Dispensing Optician

    Our New Zealand Association is working on a code of conduct, or minimum standards for dispensing opticians. We've come up with the following document, however I would be very interested in discussing this with anyone - what ways we can improve on this, what's missing, what shouldn't be there, etc.

    Thank you for your help!
    Mary Sue Hopper, (R.D.O. NZ)


    Triage-Clinical:
    1. Create a practice policy for Triage in combination with your practice optometrist. Ensure that your practice staff is aware of your knowledge in this area – and what patient symptoms you should be made aware of when the optometrist is away or busy. Endeavour to be the main information point for triage – all queries should be run through you as you are available and required.


    Dispensing:
    1. Take monocular PD’s for distance and near using a pupilometer for all orders
    2. Adjust the frame – ensure bridge fit, pantoscopic tilt, and BVD are all at their optimum position
    3. Mark the horizontal centre line (datum) on the dummy lenses of the frame and draw a vertical line at the monocular PDs, marking off each 2mm above and below datum with a fine-tipped pen. Or use an HSM.
    4. With your head and your client’s head at the same level, (not the point that is level with the centre of the pupil), you can look into the wall mirrors to help ensure that your heights are the same. Ideally you should be sitting on an adjustable stool.
    5. Check your measurement by engaging your client in conversation and continuing to note the relevant marking.
    6. For all single vision aspheric lenses you must use the method above to measure heights for the principal axis/centre of rotation for single vision. This is done with the lenses perpendicular to the floor. Refer to “Practical Optical Dispensing” by David Wilson, page 123-132.
    7. Order the lens position according to your monocular PDs and the heights according to the final positioning of the markings.

    Adjustments – and Delivering Spectacles

    1. If a patient presents for an adjustment, we need to first identify the type of lens they are wearing, and then mark progressives for fitting cross. Note state of the lenses, and discuss this with the patient – they may not realise their lenses are damaged, worn, etc.
    2. Examine the horizontal alignment
    a. If bifocals, check that the segs are equidistant from the bottom lids.
    b. If single vision, check the position of the centres
    c. If progressive, check that the fitting crosses are in front of the pupils
    2. Examine the pantoscopic tilt
    a. A pantoscopic tilt from 10 to 12 is recommended for all progressives, any deviation at the time of dispensing should have been noted on the client file – and the dispensing optician should verify that the pantoscopic tilt is identical to that at the time of dispensing.
    b. Ensure the BVD is accurate
    3. Examine the temple width
    a. From the front of the frame, check that both lenses are of an equal distance from each eye – that is the vertex distances are equal when observed from above
    b. Check that there is no temple pressure forward of the ears and that the temple width pressure against the head is accurate.
    c. The correct temple width of a frame is approximately 5 mm narrower than the client’s head width. Spring hinged temples should not be set at any different ration – use the same 5 mm narrower than head width as your guide.
    4. Examine the temple bow
    a. Ensure that the shape or bow of the temples conforms to your client’s head
    5. Examine the length to bend – “triangle of force”
    a. Bend the temple so that it follows the line of the back of your client’s ear – this bend should start 2mm behind the top of the ear to allow for slight facial movements.
    6. Adjust the anatomical bend
    a. Adjust the shape of the temple to follow the depressions or bumps in the mastoid area behind the ears – the more even the pressure the greater the comfort
    b. Remember the pressure needs to be even along the back of the ear – in order to create that “suction” effect which holds the frame in place and provides the most comfort for the wearer.
    7. Once all adjustments have been done, and heights or fitting crosses checked, check the distance VA’s and near VA’s depending on the RX with patients.
    8. If any drop in VA is noted, this should be reported to the optometrist as soon as possible. If a dispensing optician has followed the above procedure and all prescription requirements were verified and checked at final inspection the job then is referred back to the prescriber.
    9. Explain how the lenses are cared for –
    a. Never clean with hot or warm water
    b. Use only cold water to clean the lenses with liquid soap – no additives in the soap, as aloe can destroy a coating quickly, along with some other abrasive cleaning agents.
    c. Recommend your own lens cleaner
    d. Show them how to use their case
    e. Suggest coming back in 3 months for a warrant of fitness on their specs (you can clean them, replace worn nose pads, etc – but better yet – you can get another chance to talk to them about another set of specs/contacts/sunnies/etc.
    f. Do not rub lenses with pressure – the coating is a finish, and any finish is able to be rubbed through with repeated vigorous cleaning. Gentle wipes with the cloth we provide are best
    g. Instruct them on cleaning their lens cloth – normal laundry, etc.
    10. Explain how they will use the lenses:
    a. Progressives
    b. Single vision distance
    c. Reading
    d. Occupational – etc.

    Checking work – Verifying Lens Orders Received:
    1. Check lens surfaces for defects before neutralising
    2. Check powers, sph, cyl, axis, prism, etc
    3. Check edge and centre thickness
    4. Check base curves as required by RX
    5. Check materials
    6. Check treatments – coatings, etc.
    7. Check for transitions if ordered
    8. Check surface – front and back – after neutralising
    9. Check lens fit and shape
    10. Ensure the lenses are not buckling, or too small
    11. Check frame size, model, colour is according to order
    12. Clean
    13. Remark heights on progs, or SV Aspheric, etc.
    14. Match case to frame



    Mary Sue Hopper, R.D.O. (NZ)

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    You might want to teach the females to wipe from front to back also.
    I can't immagine (I guess in a socialist climate this is common) working anywhere where my every move was described or proscribed by law or anyone else.

    Just get some sort of cetification for competency and back off!

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    I'm curious MarySue, are opticians in New Zealand required to be licensed? Setting minimum standards is a good idea, but how would your association monitor compliance?
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    Compliance.....

    .....in many other countries (Canada for example) is through their "College", which is both the regulatory agency and association combined. New Zealand requires a program of study (the outstanding program in Australia headed by Mr. David Wilson at the Open Training and Education Network, OTEN is hte typical course) prior to licensure. I understand from Prof. Wilson that a license is required. Many other nations are ahead of us in that regard, but I guess that depends on whether or not you feel Opticians need an education.

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    Mary Sue -

    I think that is an awesome list and I applaud your association for taking the time to compose it!
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    Chip

    Thank you for your honest reply. It is labourious, that's why we would like some input from people in other countries - to know what is vitally important for best practice world wide.

    This list started as everything - and is being worked down to necessities. I might have given a bit of back ground information on this - as I am the current president of the Association of Dispensing Opticians of New Zealand. I am also a committee member for the Continuing Professional Development Approval Committee.

    Here our laws require us to register with the ministry of health. We have a qualification which is the equivalent to and Australian qualification or standard. We register with the Board (Ministry of Health Optometrists and Dispensing Opticians Registration Board) and then must comply with gaining CPD (Continuing Professional Develoopment) points throughout the year. 10 points are required, and 1 hour of learning is the equivalent to one standard point.

    The list is required when the Board must do a competency assessment on someone who has had a complaint filed with the Ministry of Health, or when they have not obtained their 10 points for more than three years running. In order to do the assessments - we have to have a minimum standard of care.

    If you wouldn't mind actually going through the list and suggesting what is most important for best practice in your part of the world - I'd be very greatful.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by chip anderson View Post
    You might want to teach the females to wipe from front to back also.
    I can't immagine (I guess in a socialist climate this is common) working anywhere where my every move was described or proscribed by law or anyone else.

    Just get some sort of cetification for competency and back off!
    Mary Sue Hopper, R.D.O. (NZ)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlm View Post
    I'm curious MarySue, are opticians in New Zealand required to be licensed? Setting minimum standards is a good idea, but how would your association monitor compliance?

    Yes in New Zealand you must be fully qualified through an approved course, and then register with the Ministry of Health to hold what is called an "Annual Practicing Certificate"

    I would say it is much like a license in the USA, as I was qualified at RJ Sargeant Reynolds in Richmond VA and licensed there to begin with in 1984!

    Mary Sue
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmcdonald View Post
    .....in many other countries (Canada for example) is through their "College", which is both the regulatory agency and association combined. New Zealand requires a program of study (the outstanding program in Australia headed by Mr. David Wilson at the Open Training and Education Network, OTEN is the typical course) prior to licensure. I understand from Prof. Wilson that a license is required. Many other nations are ahead of us in that regard, but I guess that depends on whether or not you feel Opticians need an education.
    Professor Wilson is an honorary member of the ADONZ and is on the CPD Approval Committee I talked about earlier. He is helping to shave the unnecessary off this list as well.

    We are facing a time of potential de-regulation, and in my mind, we want to set ourselves as far above the non qualified crowd as possible. That's why it is vital to set a code of conduct for practicing for our members. We need to ensure our ability to work and earn a living wage.

    Currently our association is also in the process of defining a new scope of practice for Dispensing Opticians within New Zealand. We are applying for the addition of "delegated tasks" as an extension of our current scope of practice - and any information dispensing opticians have on "site testing" by qualified dispensers would be helpful.

    Mary Sue:cheers:
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    Mary Sue -

    I think that is an awesome list and I applaud your association for taking the time to compose it!

    THANK YOU!!!!!
    Mary Sue Hopper, R.D.O. (NZ)

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    Ian MacIvor, NAIT

    Professor MacIvor can also be of assistance. I am to be with him on Wednesday, and if he has not responded, I will ask him to do so. He runs the NAIT Optical Science Program that educates most of the Opticians across Canada, and has a wealth of info that can assist with increasing the scope. Ian, what say you, my friend?

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    MarySue,

    Ian's nickname here on the board is shwing, he would be a great resource as many of the states here in the US envy his program. From what I have heard it is top notch and it has a spectacle, contact, and vision testing section incorporated into the curriculum. Everything I know is second hand from Dr. McDonald, but it's enough to get me salivateing at the possibilities. It's is a very nice list you have put together I applaud your efforts and hope everything works out, let me know if I can help in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmcdonald View Post
    Professor MacIvor can also be of assistance. I am to be with him on Wednesday, and if he has not responded, I will ask him to do so. He runs the NAIT Optical Science Program that educates most of the Opticians across Canada, and has a wealth of info that can assist with increasing the scope. Ian, what say you, my friend?

    This sounds wonderful - I know optiboard as a place to get help but this would be fantastic!!

    Thank you!:drop:
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarryChiling View Post
    MarySue,

    Ian's nickname here on the board is shwing, he would be a great resource as many of the states here in the US envy his program. From what I have heard it is top notch and it has a spectacle, contact, and vision testing section incorporated into the curriculum. Everything I know is second hand from Dr. McDonald, but it's enough to get me salivateing at the possibilities. It's is a very nice list you have put together I applaud your efforts and hope everything works out, let me know if I can help in any way.
    Thank you for your comments, and I would love to make contact with Dr. McDonald - are his contact details available? Would someone be able to private message me?

    Thank you!!!! :bbg:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarySue View Post
    ..................... It is labourious, that's why we would like some input from people in other countries - to know what is vitally important for best practice world wide.
    Having been born into an opticians family I followed the family path.

    In Switzerland as starters you do an apprentiship (today its 4 years) which consist's of learning the practical side under a master optician and doing 2 days of optical theory per week.

    When passed the exams you are a Swiss Government approved optician. You can be employed in any part of the country. However you can not manage a store as that requires a master opticians diploma. So the education continues until you have the master diploma which includes refraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Ryser View Post
    Having been born into an opticians family I followed the family path.

    In Switzerland as starters you do an apprentiship (today its 4 years) which consist's of learning the practical side under a master optician and doing 2 days of optical theory per week.

    When passed the exams you are a Swiss Government approved optician. You can be employed in any part of the country. However you can not manage a store as that requires a master opticians diploma. So the education continues until you have the master diploma which includes refraction.
    Chris do opticians in Switzerland have a qualification for site testing as well?
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    I've already done my *about-face* on this issue..

    I used to subscribe along the outline listed above...

    Now, I'm more *seasoned*, and feel that this level of precision and verification in approach amounts to misplaced effort, especially if applied to *all* cases/instances of *questions/problems*.

    As long as refraction remains mired in 100 years ago techniques, that human's vision remains fluid, and that eyewear will slip (not ride up), I think that approaching eyewear fitting and verification as if it were a precision-machine tool is a waste of time and talent.

    There's more to this subject to discuss...how 'bout a round table, in person, sometime?

    My two cents, what's yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Santini View Post
    There's more to this subject to discuss...how 'bout a round table, in person, sometime?

    My two cents, what's yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Santini View Post
    I used to subscribe along the outline listed above...

    Now, I'm more *seasoned*, and feel that this level of precision and verification in approach amounts to misplaced effort, especially if applied to *all* cases/instances of *questions/problems*.

    As long as refraction remains mired in 100 years ago techniques, that human's vision remains fluid, and that eyewear will slip (not ride up), I think that approaching eyewear fitting and verification as if it were a precision-machine tool is a waste of time and talent.

    There's more to this subject to discuss...how 'bout a round table, in person, sometime?

    My two cents, what's yours?

    Barry
    Barry I'm not sure I understand what you are saying? It seems that you are saying don't use the most technical or accurate methods for filling a prescription. Why wouldn't you use the technology available to ensure accuracy?

    Mary Sue
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    I'm only responding to the list of *skills & procedures* at the top of this thread.

    My belief in accuracy is temperered by experience...it just doesn't have to be *exact* to be acceptable, satisfactory or even optimal...because vision is fluid, not static, and so is the frame adjustment & fit...

    Emphasis on extreme accuracy when fitting and fulfilling eyewear prescriptions, is, IMHO, misplaced effort.

    In addition, if I were an eyewear client, I would be put off by the specified (sledge-hammer) approach to reviewing my eyewear, whether I had a spoken problem...or not.

    Maybe it's just that I'm from NY...

    Step back & see the bigger picture of the client's vision, lifestyle needs & wants, both spoken & unspoken. In other words....sharp vision often means the dispenser has to think fuzzy.

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    So take the time to discuss with the patient, lifestyle and choice, but then don't worry?

    To me the two go hand in hand, good recommendations for filling a prescription start at the frame selection - and work their way through to detailed and accurate measurements for filling the prescription.

    I don't think you can be too accurate when creating the optimal fit for a lens and a client. Why spend time figuring out which modality is perfect for the patient, only to have the corridors at the wrong inset, for ex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarySue View Post
    So take the time to discuss with the patient, lifestyle and choice, but then don't worry?
    I don't think you can be too accurate when creating the optimal fit for a lens and a client. Why spend time figuring out which modality is perfect for the patient, only to have the corridors at the wrong inset, for ex?
    I think we not seeing our reasoning together. Let's look at your statement: only to have the corridors at the wrong inset, for ex

    Just what method is *proper, representative, accurate and precise" for determining this measurement?
    a. PD ruler
    b. Pupilometer set at the distance vision setting
    c. pupilometer set at the near vision setting
    d. the measurement should be subjectively deteremined over the DV Rx is place (and vertex compensated, if necessary), similar to the Feinbloom method for precision surgical near-vision telescopes

    The answer, of course, is 'd'. But who among us takes the time to do this. Are choices a,b, & c therefore inaccurate? Or unrepresentative? Or shall we site statistics to validate our normally-employed, more simple approach?

    This is but one example why *machine-tool* precision and eyewear are not useful bedfellows, imho.

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    I take the time. Maybe because of the registration process and the requirement of continuing education, there is more emphasis in my country to be accurate (our methods can come under scrutiny by the Ministry of Health if a complaint is received or education not kept up to date).

    I personally use a pupilometer for near and distance measurements separately. I also use the Lewis mirror method for confirming near convergence differences.

    I have not had one progressive lens rejected by a client in the past 18 months, and I'm hoping to go for gold - and make it to two years!

    I see cutting corners as a way of shortchanging the client and simply not offering them my best effort.

    I'm sure there are people more accurate with a PD stick them I am with methods I've been taught and try to use - but I have yet to meet them.
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    Mary Sue:

    I think you have left off the most important part of dispensing.
    Talk with and listen to the patient, find out what his needs and wants are.
    Then try to decide what will best fill his requirements.
    All the measurements and check lists in the world won't make you a good dispenser if you don't know what the patient, needs, wants, and does.


    Chip

    P.S. you can miss a lot of opportunities for yourself if you don't know what the end use of the product will be.

    Another P.S. I think you will find that recommeded pantoscopic tilt for progressives is 8-12 degrees.
    Pantoscopic tilt for segmented bifocals should be 5-8 degrees.
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    Mary-Sue:

    What would you suggest charging the patient for this level of service ? If there is not a set rate then is there a penalty to the optician if he does not do it this way ?

    What are you proposing to insure compliance with this approach ? Are you willing to back up the other side of the equation by legislating a
    mandatory fee for service ?

    The "deregulation" scare tactic being used by associations has been around for 30 years . Is there not a new scare tactic approach that associations could get on the bandwagon with , it is wearing a little thin .

    Gary

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