How wide is the reading area in the Autograph?

**Happylady** · 02-17-2007, 06:21 PM

I have a patient complaining about the reading area in her lenses. Of course she came in without her previous progressives so I don't know what they were. The fit is perfect and there are several possible things I am checking out, but just how wide is the reading area in this lens?

Her distance is about a -1.00 and plano and her reading is +2.25. Her previous progressives had a reading add of +2.00 (at least that is what one of the opticians wrote down) so it isn't that much stronger.

**m0002a** · 02-17-2007, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Happylady

I have a patient complaining about the reading area in her lenses. Of course she came in without her previous progressives so I don't know what they were. The fit is perfect and there are several possible things I am checking out, but just how wide is the reading area in this lens?

Her distance is about a -1.00 and plano and her reading is +2.25. Her previous progressives had a reading add of +2.00 (at least that is what one of the opticians wrote down) so it isn't that much stronger.

Ask her how tall her old frames were compared to the new ones.

**Happylady** · 02-17-2007, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by m0002a

Ask her how tall her old frames were compared to the new ones.

I told her she needed to come back with her old glasses. Her new glasses are 20 high. She told me her old glasses were narrower. I have no idea what they are or how they were fit.

**For-Life** · 02-17-2007, 07:10 PM

what is here old brand?

**Happylady** · 02-17-2007, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by For-Life

what is here old brand?

As I said, I have no idea. She didn't bring them. I told her I needed to see them.

**rdcoach5** · 02-18-2007, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Happylady

As I said, I have no idea. She didn't bring them. I told her I needed to see them.

Did you try putting a 1 diop prism to neutralize vertical imbalance? If her new Rx has even a little more vert. imb. than her old, it makes a big difference.
Bob Taylor

**Robert Martellaro** · 02-19-2007, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Happylady

I told her she needed to come back with her old glasses. Her new glasses are 20 high. She told me her old glasses were narrower. I have no idea what they are or how they were fit.

The old lenses may have had a shorter corridor, allowing more reading area at the depth she's comfortable with.

The Genesis has a medium corridor length, although Shamir is introducing, or has introduced a short version Autograph in the U.S.

**Andrew Weiss** · 02-20-2007, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Happylady

I have a patient complaining about the reading area in her lenses. Of course she came in without her previous progressives so I don't know what they were. The fit is perfect and there are several possible things I am checking out, but just how wide is the reading area in this lens?

Try calling your Shamir rep and ask her to use a dandy program she has on her laptop that will give the precise corridor measurements for the Autograph -- and pretty much any other current progressive you can think of. Ours came in with it and I had the opportunity to review the topographical maps of the Autograph, Creation, Genesis and Piccolo as well as the Zeiss Individual, Comfort, Panamic, Physio, etc. Sorry I don't remember the measurements (my memory isn't that good

).

**lensman2007** · 03-08-2007, 11:25 AM

Autograph is a good lens but the Seiko Supeercede is much better.

**Happylady** · 03-13-2007, 08:03 PM

An update. She came back with her other glasses. They were Varilux Panamics. I redid her glasses into Panamics and so far she has not come back. :)

Sometimes newer isn't better. Years ago we had a patient that didn't like his new progressives. We had him bring his old ones in and they were Super No Lines. We remade and he was happy.

Why oh why do some people not bring their old glasses with them when they order new ones? If we haven't made their present glasses we have no idea what material, what style or how they wear them.:(

**rdcoach5** · 05-17-2007, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Happylady

An update. She came back with her other glasses. They were Varilux Panamics. I redid her glasses into Panamics and so far she has not come back. :)

Sometimes newer isn't better. Years ago we had a patient that didn't like his new progressives. We had him bring his old ones in and they were Super No Lines. We remade and he was happy.

Why oh why do some people not bring their old glasses with them when they order new ones? If we haven't made their present glasses we have no idea what material, what style or how they wear them.:(

The base curves or P.D. have to be different. The Autograph is , at least, 10 times better/sharper than the Panamic. The Autograph also has to be dead straight. you have to have the correct pantoscpic tilt. I have seen negative reactions initially to free-forms like the Gradal Individual , who loved the lens after adjusting the fram,e.