King West Optical Optician Arrested

**Golfnorth** · 07-23-2011, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by idispense

Unbelievable ! The College of Opticians of Ontario still has not brought this matter to discipline . Not even a hearing is scheduled so it seems . It is 2011 now and the incidents occurred back in 8 / 23 /2007 according to the College web site . That's 4 years now of sitting .

License is still listed as current and active .

Reminds me of the Great Glasses delays . No license suspension for years. They just let it go on in spite of the judges calling the operation a sham and there being many,many infractions . How long did it take them to schedule hearings in that case ? How many years did it take for them to suspend that license ? How many more years did it take to revoke that license ?

Now it looks like history will repeat itself again .If thats is true we only have another 3 to 4 years to wait .

Is it reasonable to take 4 years and more to deal with this ? How would a Registrar and Council justify & explain this to the membership ?

So what did our College say about this issue when you contacted them about it?

Regards,
Golfnorth

**idispense** · 07-23-2011, 07:46 PM

Best you call the Registrar , President, and the Ottawa Rep yourself and have lots of other members do the same . Pressure them at CE meetings . You have to experience it first hand . Go to the COO web site and search the public registry on the names you know , then look to see if there are discipline proceeding s and click on "details" . Note if the license is current and active. Do a Wikpedia search . Call the Ministry of Health and ask them why this is so old and how many more ?

Ask yourself how long it took for them to suspend the Bergez license never mind revoke it. In that case how many Ontario Court judges had already ruled against him ? Yet COO delayed and delayed and delayed for years . In fact, in spite of all the documented infractions our Registrars kept renewing his license. You can't suspend or revoke a license that is not current and active . Does that tell you a story ? It cost us a cool million and a half while they delayed. Not to mention how much we lost in business to illegals while The COO forgot that it was supposed to be a Regulatory College not a travel agency for European travel and self promotion firm for opticians.

Well start asking questions yourself personally . Call them on it . Call each of the President , Registrar and the ICRC peoiple . Form your own opinion. And our Associaiton , LOL, where are they ?

**Golfnorth** · 07-23-2011, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by idispense

Best you call the Registrar , President, and the Ottawa Rep yourself and have lots of other members do the same . Pressure them at CE meetings . You have to experience it first hand . Go to the COO web site and search the public registry on the names you know , then look to see if there are discipline proceeding s and click on "details" . Note if the license is current and active. Do a Wikpedia search . Call the Ministry of Health and ask them why this is so old and how many more ?

ASk yourself how long it took for then to suspend the Bergez license never mind revoke it. In that case how many Ontario Court judges had already ruled against him ? Yet COO delayed and delayed and delayed for years . In fact in spite of all the documented infractions our Registrars kept renewing his license. You can'
t suspend or revoke a license that is not current and active . Does that tell you a story ? It cost us a cool million and a half while they delayed.

Well start asking questions yourself personally . Call them on it . Call each of the President , Registrar and the ICRC peoiple . Form your own opinion. And our Associaiton , LOL, where are they ?

I will ask you once again,"What did our College say to you about the Adam Plimmer lack of action when you contacted them?"

Regards,
Golfnorth

**idispense** · 07-23-2011, 08:37 PM

All I know is what I see on their web site. Under DISCIPLINE it says there are no hearings scheduled. Under other areas it only says "pending" . Under dates it says since 2007 .

Maybe that is reasonable , what do you think ?

**Golfnorth** · 07-24-2011, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by idispense

All I know is what I see on their web site. Under DISCIPLINE it says there are no hearings scheduled. Under other areas it only says "pending" . Under dates it says since 2007 .

Maybe that is reasonable , what do you think ?

Well I think that you are very passionate about this subject. Passionate enough to post your thoughts on this site but not enough to phone yourself. You also tried to get me to phone but I can't figure out that if it's such an issue to you why you haven't contacted our College yourself?

Regards,
Golfnorth

**idispense** · 07-25-2011, 02:03 PM

Perhaps then our industry being disgraced by this type of shenanigans on global TV and newspapers and a regulatory College demonstrating a 4 year lackadaisical attitude towards it should not interest you or other opticians. Dn't worry about it . If you don't care about your industry then you don't care . It's your choice.

**PJV5** · 08-08-2011, 09:07 PM

Not maybe,but definitely!

**Doug** · 11-19-2011, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by idispense

I agree maybe Silverman needs to dig further into this . He might want to ask the regulatory body why 4 years has passed now and there is still no hearing scheduled.

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**2o/20** · 11-22-2011, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Doug

I heard Jay Hakim, who sits on the board, was one of Kind West's suppliers. Could that have something to do with it?

you really scared of him arent you
was he there when that really happened responsibility was with your resgistar

**Doug** · 11-23-2011, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by 2o/20

you really scared of him arent you
was he there when that really happened responsibility was with your resgistar

Reference was made to taking extra care everything is correct and done proper. Great glasses took years for them.

**2o/20** · 11-30-2011, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Doug

Reference was made to taking extra care everything is correct and done proper. Great glasses took years for them.

doug i see you have edited a lot of you posts i wonder why?

**LandLord** · 11-30-2011, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by 2o/20

doug i see you have edited a lot of you posts i wonder why?

maybe Doug is Jay Hakim?

**2o/20** · 12-01-2011, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by LandLord

maybe Doug is Jay Hakim?

whom are you fooling
you sure know who doug is
4 or 5 of you were orchestering this thread
and you all are bad loosers

**tmorse** · 12-02-2011, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by idispense

Best you call the Registrar , President, and the Ottawa Rep yourself and have lots of other members do the same . Pressure them at CE meetings . You have to experience it first hand . Go to the COO web site and search the public registry on the names you know , then look to see if there are discipline proceeding s and click on "details" . Note if the license is current and active. Do a Wikpedia search . Call the Ministry of Health and ask them why this is so old and how many more ?

Well start asking questions yourself personally . Call them on it . Call each of the President , Registrar and the ICRC peoiple . Form your own opinion. And our Associaiton , LOL, where are they ?

I also wonder... why don't you 'Practice what you preach'!!