Which lens should I recommend to my friend?

**rdcoach5** · 01-25-2007, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by blackbirdy4444

Oh, one more thing. In general, not to stereotype, your Rx is not the greatest test of HIGH END progressives. High myopes are simply looking through a little less power as they read. The true test of any prog. is a plus on plus Rx. Course, as we all know, lenses like the Panamic seemed ok till we put it on a hyperope... then it failed miserably. Just a thought.

Actually my Rx is -9.25+1.50x020
-9.00+1.25x150 Add +2.50
I agree hyperopes are a special class because we often can't get a steep enough base curve. I assume the free-forms have taken care of that problem. At least I have seen no base curve problems myself. Anyone?
Bob Taylor

**rdcoach5** · 01-25-2007, 09:47 PM

I just re-adjusted the nosepads for a recently dispensed pair of high minux (approx. -7.50+0.75x180 o.u add +2.50}. I increased the pantoscopic tilt and everything came into focus. WOW My own Rx is a lttle bit higher and when I got them- my new Kodak Uniques-, L thought the new Rx was off .We checked that and the P.D. And found the lenses were less than 5 degrees from dead straight. After loosening the eyewire screws and twisting the lenses on axis, I experienced the Wow effect of the free-form lens. Wider distance, intermediate and near, Dim light and night vision is much sharper. These lenses are great but MUST be exact.
Bob Taylor

**blackbirdy4444** · 01-26-2007, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by rdcoach5

I just re-adjusted the nosepads for a recently dispensed pair of high minux (approx. -7.50+0.75x180 o.u add +2.50}. I increased the pantoscopic tilt and everything came into focus. WOW My own Rx is a lttle bit higher and when I got them- my new Kodak Uniques-, L thought the new Rx was off .We checked that and the P.D. And found the lenses were less than 5 degrees from dead straight. After loosening the eyewire screws and twisting the lenses on axis, I experienced the Wow effect of the free-form lens. Wider distance, intermediate and near, Dim light and night vision is much sharper. These lenses are great but MUST be exact.
Bob Taylor

One reason also to favor a lens like the ID is the material availability and coating option. The HOYA 1.7 has a higher ABBE than other manufacturers 1.6 and 1.67... truly amazing. And Super Hi Vision is better in all catagories. So, even if design were not the motivating factor, i think the total package is better. HOYA's 1.7 is even drillable.

**rdcoach5** · 01-27-2007, 12:31 PM

Any trouble with cracking in 3 piece mounts? Is the 1.7 Index made in transitions?
Bob Taylor

au · 01-27-2007, 08:48 PM

Hi rdcoach 5

Hoya do not work with Transition, they invent the suntech technology by themselves, it is something similar to Transition. Hoya called that " spin -coating". Hoya only have suntech on 1.6 with vp coating but not SFT coating in japan, may be someday later. Furthermore they have grey and brown, blue and purple for fashion color.

I used the Transition and Suntech all the times, for normal customer it works ok but for professional, Transition works more fast and darker under UV and return back to normal with more lighter color. For single vision I prefer Transition but for Hoya PAL must be suntech.

May be another reason why Hoya not work with Transition. It is because Essilor own shares of Transition.

:cheers:

**rdcoach5** · 01-29-2007, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by blackbirdy4444

One reason also to favor a lens like the ID is the material availability and coating option. The HOYA 1.7 has a higher ABBE than other manufacturers 1.6 and 1.67... truly amazing. And Super Hi Vision is better in all catagories. So, even if design were not the motivating factor, i think the total package is better. HOYA's 1.7 is even drillable.

Why won't Hoya work with Transitions?

au · 01-29-2007, 09:34 PM

Hoya invented the suntech themselves therefore not work with Transition.

Also Hoya the most competitor is Essilor. Therefore they must not co-

operate together. Everytime Hoya launch new PAL have compare with

ESSILOR.

:cheers:

**rinselberg** · 01-29-2007, 09:52 PM

Hoya offers lenses with the Suntech and also the Transitions photochromic treatments.

You can download a Hoya product availability guide in pdf format:
http://www.hoyanet.net/index.php?SID...2&page_id=7874

**m0002a** · 01-31-2007, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by blackbirdy4444

One reason also to favor a lens like the ID is the material availability and coating option. The HOYA 1.7 has a higher ABBE than other manufacturers 1.6 and 1.67... truly amazing. And Super Hi Vision is better in all catagories. So, even if design were not the motivating factor, i think the total package is better. HOYA's 1.7 is even drillable.

Hoya 1.7 has an abbe value of 36. Zeiss 1.6 has a abbe value of 42.

**m0002a** · 01-31-2007, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by blackbirdy4444

Oh, one more thing. In general, not to stereotype, your Rx is not the greatest test of HIGH END progressives. High myopes are simply looking through a little less power as they read. The true test of any prog. is a plus on plus Rx. Course, as we all know, lenses like the Panamic seemed ok till we put it on a hyperope... then it failed miserably. Just a thought.

My personal Rx is +4.75 -1.50 x90 +2.25. If anyone wants to send me some lenses to test (I will send you the frame) I would be glad to wear them and comment in this forum, or only comment in private in you prefer.

**blackbirdy4444** · 01-31-2007, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by rdcoach5

Any trouble with cracking in 3 piece mounts? Is the 1.7 Index made in transitions?
Bob Taylor

The 1.7 index drills very nicely, and is very capable of withstanding the daily rigors of being in a 3 piece mount. Clearly, if there is a pt that would benefit more from a virtually indestructible 3 piece material, the HOYA 1.67 would be a better choice. Its Tensile strength is the highest. The 1.67 is available with HOYA's proprietary SunTech photochromatic, both Gray and Brown, in the HOYA ID design. SunTech performs very much like Transitions V. Actual transitions would not work because it is not a front molded product. This is actually a great way to spot a supposed "free form" lens that is really just using a front surface mold. If Transitions is available, the front is molded.

au · 02-02-2007, 02:40 AM

Hi blackbirdy4444

I order a Ipseo with transition from Essilor HK, they told me it is made in France. I have been wait for almost 3 months. The price is high but still can do it. It was year 2006 January.

:cheers:

**For-Life** · 02-02-2007, 10:59 AM

Yes, even from Canada it will take three weeks. Not a problem for me. It is a speciality lens. I am and the customers are willing to wait.

**Happylady** · 02-03-2007, 11:31 PM

I just wanted to post to say my friend got her glasses about a week ago. I saw her tonight and she is very happy with them.

**sharon m./ aboc** · 02-04-2007, 02:15 AM

[quote=Happylady;175644]I just wanted to post to say my friend got her glasses about a week ago. I saw her tonight and she is very happy with them.[/

YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

**Jason Shroyer** · 05-08-2007, 10:16 PM

I wish you had included an Rx, But for best general use (one pair of glasses for all taskes) I would go with the Sola One or Sola One HD for High Rx's.

However, consider the Definity, I hear great things from pt's who can afford it.

I fit many musicians with the Sola One and they love it.

**Bobie** · 05-09-2007, 10:33 PM

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