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    Confused Photochromatic & UV filter

    We all know there are "in-mass" and "imbibing" techlonogy to make photochromatic lens. ("In-mass" = whole lens change color. "Imbibing" = only the front layer change color.)

    Also, we know that UV ray activate the color-changing feature of the lens.

    My question here "Can all plastic photochromatic lenses block 100% UV ray?"

    For in-mass + CR39 lens: I would assume the embeded agent in the lens absort the UV ray and hence "block 100% UV".

    For in-mass + any high-index: I would assume since UV ray are blocked by hi-idx material, hence there are no such product exist in the market.

    For imbibing + CR39: I would assume the embeded agent in the lfront layer of the ens absort the UV ray and hence "block 100% UV".

    For imbibing + High-Index: I would guess front layer are made of CR39 or some other non-UV-blocking material, only the back portion of the lens are high index material. I do not know how manufactor resolve the optical problems raised when using different reflective index materials.

    Can any experts anwer these questions?
    Paul @ Silicon Valley California

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    I'm not trying to bust your chops but...

    What exactly is your question?

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    Redhot Jumper Simple solution................................

    Simple solution for your problem............................

    Buy a UV meter and check them lenses and you will know if they block or not.

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    I've asked this before but if answered I don't remember the answer. If UV blocking eyeglass materials actually "block 100%" of UV. Why can't these materials or even these coatings be used in welding goggles and masks?
    I suspect because they ain't even close to blocking 100% of U.V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chip anderson View Post
    I've asked this before but if answered I don't remember the answer. If UV blocking eyeglass materials actually "block 100%" of UV. Why can't these materials or even these coatings be used in welding goggles and masks?
    I suspect because they ain't even close to blocking 100% of U.V.
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    Welding and UV blocking

    Chip Anderson said:
    If UV blocking eyeglass materials actually "block 100%" of UV. Why can't these materials or even these coatings be used in welding goggles and masks?
    UV blocking is measured over a spectrum range. Typically today eyewear carries a 100% block at 380nm up to 400nm depending on the lens.

    I have not yet looked up the nanometer range of UV blocking needed for welding but I get back to this and let you know.

    Poly naturally blocks some UV but additional UV inhibitors are added.

    Look for more information after Christmas, I am behind on the shopping and as you can see from the date and time of this post I need to get it wrapped up.

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    How do they make photchormatic lens with UV-blocking materials?

    Quote Originally Posted by akeroptical View Post

    What exactly is your question?
    Sorry for the confision. My real quesiotns are:

    How much UV-bolcking do plastic photochromatic lenses offer? As good as polarized lenses? (saw a website claim it is 100% UV blocking)

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    How do they make photchormatic lens with UV-blocking materials? Since UV rays are blocked by these poly/trivex/mid-idx/hi-idx material. This is like putting the lens inside a car, or is it?
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    Paul @ Silicon Valley California

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    Photochromic lenses & UV activation

    a1vo said:
    How much UV-bolcking do plastic photochromatic lenses offer? As good as polarized lenses? (saw a website claim it is 100% UV blocking)
    I answered:
    UV blocking is measured over a spectrum range. Typically today eyewear carries a 100% block at 380nm up to 400nm depending on the lens.
    Polarized and UV are two entirely different types of light management throughout the visual and invisable spectrum.

    a1vo said:
    How do they make photchormatic lens with UV-blocking materials? Since UV rays are blocked by these poly/trivex/mid-idx/hi-idx material. This is like putting the lens inside a car, or is it?
    Photochromics are activated by UV, with a transitions poly the photochromic material is bonded to the poly surface, so you are not blocking the UV with any poly material. I don't know of an in mass poly photochromic, and poly does have some natural UV blocking ability.

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    I too am out until after the 2nd

    and did not have time to read all of the posts on this subject...gotta run but...

    Welding and burning goggles/masks require IR protection..other end of the spectrum from UV.

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