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    Unmarked PALs

    Is it normal for progressives to come back from the lab with the markings removed? When I worked for a company with on-premises lab, they left the markings which made dispensing and verifying much quicker. Where I work now, the lenses are shipped in and they're never marked. I have trouble seeing the tiny manufacturer's marks, so it's a hassle. Any suggestions to at least speed up the process of re-marking? Thank you.

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    PAL Markings

    Depends on how big a lab you use - most of them won't be able to change the way they final their jobs just for one customer, but you can ask.

    We have a PAL id in our back room - it's a wonderful thing - makes seeing the laser etchings much easier. Not sure who makes it, but you should be able to find one pretty easily by asking your lab. I think Essilor makes one.

    Otherwise, all you can do is dot those nasal and temporal circles (or boxes, crosses, etc.) and place it on a chart for the specific lens (which you lab should include in the job, at least our does - there's a different chart for each kind of lens as the measurements differ) and draw in the distance cross and reading area.

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    Thanks for the reply and good advice. The scary part about this is, there are un-trained people allowed to check in and verify glasses where I work, and when it comes to progressives they just assume it's okay because they haven't been trained to verify them correctly. I can't wait to move on to a better company--or better yet, raise the standards where I work.

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    Pals

    I know - I had that at the last place I worked. At my new job, I'm the one with the least experience :) but when I was at "a large optical retailer" it got sort of scary sometimes what people would do with segs and pd's, etc. when we would get busy. LOL.

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    If you have a tint tank where you work, "steam" up the lenses - that sometimes helps identify the marks. Most of the time, I would hold the lenses up towards the fluoresent light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conoid of Sturm View Post
    I can't wait to move on to a better company--or better yet, raise the standards where I work.

    :cheers:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOS_Queen View Post
    If you have a tint tank where you work, "steam" up the lenses - that sometimes helps identify the marks. Most of the time, I would hold the lenses up towards the fluoresent light.
    This is what I do if I have problems, although it only seems that I ahve problems with Sola lenses and I don't tend to sell them very often.

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    If I recall correctly, there was apparently a short lived lens (or line of lenses) that had markings that could only be seen under a black light. Before my time though....anyone recall such a thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conoid of Sturm View Post
    Is it normal for progressives to come back from the lab with the markings removed? When I worked for a company with on-premises lab, they left the markings which made dispensing and verifying much quicker. Where I work now, the lenses are shipped in and they're never marked. I have trouble seeing the tiny manufacturer's marks, so it's a hassle. Any suggestions to at least speed up the process of re-marking? Thank you.
    I wonder if you could talk to your lab and ask them mark the "dots" before shipping them - (wouldn't need to be the entire set of markings ... just the dots) ???

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    When getting uncuts from my lab, I always remove their inaccurate, hurried markings and remark them myself. Sometimes, they don't mark the whole circle, just a little dot, which leaves you at lease one mm of play where you put it down on that mark-up chart. I do use the PAL ID and it helps quite a bit. IMO, when I'm cutting out lenses, there is just no such thing as too exact. I did all the lab work for one year at a place I used to work for, and I didn't even know there was such a thing as tolerance. Then, I worked at LC and was referring to the thing every time I checked something out. So, having dead-on measurements for a year is pretty good, I'd say, maybe you shouldn't trust your lab to mark them for you.

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