Does Anybody Knows The Lab that will do Silhouettes Titanium 3 Piece Mountings And Possibly Supply The Frames To Cut The Turn Around Time?
What Are They Charging
It Is A Payne In The ??? Job
Does Anybody Knows The Lab that will do Silhouettes Titanium 3 Piece Mountings And Possibly Supply The Frames To Cut The Turn Around Time?
What Are They Charging
It Is A Payne In The ??? Job
Last edited by LENNY; 02-08-2006 at 10:25 PM.
I happen to work for a lab that does a fabulous job on those 3 piece-
we are even recommended by Silhouette- but we are in California. We don't provide the frames and are far away enough that the turn time might be an issue-can do overnite each way though. if you want more info email me sierrakaren@linkline.com and I'll give you more info!
Lenny, what we did was send demo lenses from the frames to our lab in Kansas City along with a supply of plastic mounting pieces.
Any good lab will figure the mounting aspect and turn around time should be no more than 2 days. Just make sure you have enough chassis.
Also, think about custom shapes. We are doing that. Just send a tracing of the shape and the labs should be able to figure those out too.
Bob V.
Hate crass commercialism but don't know of any other way to respond to this. We were the initial lab to work with Silhouette and, yes it is a ****** to mount. We do stock the frames and have considerable experience in mounting. All that said, we are expensive--but you get what you pay for; our quality and service is great. If you are interested in exploring this further, please call 800/873-9256 and ask for Laurie (x6136).
Lenny, we do all of our finish work in house, except for glass. The silhouettes are awesome, clients love them, and pay dearly! We keep a couple dozen chassis in inventory,mostly the hingeless model. They are really quite simple to mount, if you follow their instructions, but if you find someone else to do them, don't quibble over the time or price. Al.
Silluette 3 Piece Mountings
Hi-Lenny
If you are ever looking for a company that specializes in making clip-ons for the Silhouettes or any other drill mount call OKO-Custom Clips, Inc. 877-OKO-CLIP
All metal colors matched perfectly.
Ask your Silhouette representative, they know all about us.
Visit our website for more info: www.opticalstore.com
and haven't really had a problem. I know that Silhouette will drop ship to most labs. For awhile we tried having the labs order them, but if the 19 bridge or the 140 temples were on backorder. We didn't know about it for 2 or 3 days. Labs won't say OK give me the 21 bridge and the 150 temples and we'll trim them.
So you may want to call Silhouette and have them drop ship. The easiest way we found to do it was to order lenses only and mount them in house. Just be sure to give them the right chassis number. Silhouette has confused the issue a little bit by bringing out chassis that require 2 different drill hole sizes.
I hope you're having fun and making money!!
Southeastern Optical is a great lab for this kind of work. Call them at 800-456-0088.
We sell a ton of Silhouettes, we make all of them in house using a Briot Axcell with the drill built in. Great setup and the software will allow you to save and or modify the shapes so you can get a custom fit for patients that need it. We are very happy with the unit and I have been using it for some 3 years now. JA Optronics in Maryland (800-888-0090) gives same day support. You can really turn out better quality and faster turn around times making them in house. Oh and you save a ton in lab fees!!
As for the frames, we get them in just a few days so it has never been an issue. We always have the frame before we have the lenses. If you are not going to make them in house, then the best thing you can do is to buy some inventory and send them in to the lab then reorder that frame to keep your inventory up. We make them in house and still keep a bunch of frames in stock and some clips as well.
Don
You guys do notice that we have bumped a 6 year old thread???
My new Kappa CTD edger and I can do these in 15 minutes, then it takes me another 5 minutess to install plugs.The edger edges and drills and feathers and edgepolishes them all in one cycle. Heck send them to me, it would be a pleasure to do them. Only problem is I'm in Edmonton, alberta Canada.I love this new edger:cheers:
Last edited by mike.elmes; 01-24-2006 at 08:20 PM.
I was wondering when someone would notice
Good one!!
No, actually I didn't. You only have to hit me over the head several times!!;)
Thanks!
I ordered the new Essilor edger couple of days ago!
Yep this is the old thread!
I dont need to order frames anymore!
I stock them in all colors!:D
Your going to worship the bench it sit on!! Excellent choice!!:cheers:
If you have any questions regarding this edger ask away.
mike
Ok!
Is there a directory of different shapes and drill positions?
How about notches and grooves?
I do have to say that your grammar has improvedOriginally Posted by LENNY
Hi Lenny,
I got the barcode reader with mine. The tracer does have a RS232C cable port meaning that shapes and drill hole locations should be uploadable. For the many I have done so far I either used the built in digital camera, or used the manufacturers drill hole locations and manually entered them.It is pretty fast, maybe 5 minutes to manually enter the drill hole data. Once it's entered it can be permanently saved if desired. It also does notches as well....no problems what so ever.
regards,
mike
When they first hit the market in 2000/2001 I learned to do them quickly Edging/polishing the lenses was not a problem on any edger. I drilled the holes with the silhouette supplied guide and drillbits using a Dremel Mighty Mite hand held. Never neaded reamersbroaches because the plugs doidnt fit. I used a sharp Xacto knife to cut the plugs flush
Ed
I am still waiting for the installation of my new Kappa.
I have 2 gorgeoes huge boxes in the front of my store for a week now (they do not fit any place). I found the website with all the drill locations for Silhoette shapes.
Its www.silhouettelab.net.
Do you people know if other manufacturers of 3pm have something like that?
Is it really so easy to make a drill mount eyeglass with this edgers that has been mentioned in this post? (Kappa, etc)
Are those frame you are used to work with so symetrical and free of defects that you can drill the hole without adjusting the hole position on each frame?
I am doing this questions because we do it manually and it takes a lot of time to experinced workers they always say that each frame of the same model may be different and the hole needs to be drill according to that particular frame, the lens base curve, the edge thicness, etc. I could consider investing in one of this equipments if it makes doing a dill mount eyeglass so easy.
I do not trust salemans. You are used to do this kind of jobs and most know if it really works or not. That is why your opinion and comments are so valuable for me.
Silhouette Minimal Art drill mounts are especially easy to drill and assemble! They take me about 5 minutes to mark and drill by hand. Other types of drill mounts can be more challenging ( notched mountings especially), but there is a system and it does work! If you have people who do this kind of work then forget buying expensive equipment, instead invest in your employee's and give them a raise!:cheers:
I'd like to hear how that CTD system is working out for you, Lenny... I'm going to start dropping hints about having our three piece mounts done in-house (except for 2.5 and Swissflex) to save more money and time, not to mention we've been having some issues with Santinelli tech support lately, much more so than I ever had with Gerber's service.
Got it installed!
nice!
What type of problems have you been having with Tech support? Have you contacted the Director Matt Mckenna with your concerns? m.mckenna@santinelli.com
I have made many many three piece mounts using a lot of different equipment. I should mention I am the kind of optician that refuses to let any pair of glasses go out of our finishing lab that is not perfect in every way. I can tell you that making a no-line, having the hole positions perfect to keep axis spot on, and having the hardware mounted to such perfection that even picky patients will not find fault is not as easy as some here may suggest. I have never seen a 3 piece mount that looked nearly as good when made with a hand held dremel than say using a high end edger with a drill, or edger and cad drill. The fact is for speed and consistant quality I think it requires higher end equipment. Now I know that there are Opticians out there that will debate that point with me. I do know some Opticians that can do a really nice job with a hand held dremel, but they are not slapping them together in ten minutes, and they have many years of experience making them. Even giving them that credit, I can still say I have not yet seen a 3 piece mount that looked as perfectly made as what can be done off a high end edger/drill setup can do. If you sell higher end frames and lenses, you should deliver on the quality. The one beef I have had with all the edgers I looked at was hole location, and hole diameter accuracy. If you want a 1.40 mm hole you don't want a 1.49 hole, and if it is set to be 4.5 mm in and the next hole at 1.50 they need to be on axis and exact every single time. This where some of the equipment just does not meet the standard. If the holes are too big then the bushings are a little loose and the job feels sloppy in the hand. Too tight and you have to ream the hole out. If you have a problem with the edger or drill how long does it take to get it fixed and what will that cost. How easy is it to calibrate and or change out the drill bit. Does the software used in blocking or drilling allow for changing the shapes or hole locations, and can you save them easily. To all of these questions I can tell you that the Briot Axcell with the drill feature works amazingly well. I can take any Silhouette shape and make it deeper for a no-line or wider for a wider face while locking any or all other size dimensions. You can take a shape and lock all parts of the shape and pull the B down changing ONLY the area below the geometric center. This lets you bring a lens closer to the cheeks if they are looking under the lens or need more room for the seg. All shapes and hole locations are saved and easy to modify on the fly.
Hope this helps
Don Mildrum
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