View Poll Results: Do you advise placing youths in rimless frames?

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    Poll: Youths and Rimless Frames?

    I'm curious what others think about providing rimless frames for youths. I know the definition of youths can vary and I'd be happy to hear your comments, too.
    Last edited by icare; 05-03-2006 at 03:38 PM.

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    depends on if i know the patients history with their glasses but kids as a group just tend to be way to tough on their glasses. I never recommend it and depending on how bad of shape their current pair is in dictates how hard I argue against it.

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    I never advise a youth to go with rimless, although I have made them for some youths, including my daughter. Sometimes I have regretted it (as with my daughter), sometimes it has worked out just fine. I always warn the purchaser of possible consequences.
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    Any you folks worried about safety or liability, shouldn't ever do rimless. The frame is far, far more dangerous than the lenses and young people do things that caused them to get hit in the face a lot more than us old people.

    Probably a rimless glass lens mount is safer on a mature adult than a rimless mounted in trivex on a youth. But don't let that stop you, it's what they want and there's money in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spexvet
    I never advise a youth to go with rimless, although I have made them for some youths, including my daughter. Sometimes I have regretted it (as with my daughter), sometimes it has worked out just fine. I always warn the purchaser of possible consequences.

    If you're going to put a youth in a rimless, ( we won't) you're better offer NOT mentioning the safety issue. By mentioning it, you are saying, "I am aware that this is not the safest product, but I'm selling it to you anyway." It doesn't sound that bad in your office, but it sounds horrific in a courtroom.

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    Rimless with glass lens

    Quote Originally Posted by k12311997
    depends on if i know the patients history with their glasses but kids as a group just tend to be way to tough on their glasses. I never recommend it and depending on how bad of shape their current pair is in dictates how hard I argue against it.
    Some of our customers want to fix their glasses with glass lenses for rimless frame, please advise do it or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Jong
    Some of our customers want to fix their glasses with glass lenses for rimless frame, please advise do it or not?
    We won't fill a rimless frame with glass lenses - not in any circumstance.

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    Very Nice Advise

    Quote Originally Posted by icare
    We won't fill a rimless frame with glass lenses - not in any circumstance.
    Thanks a lot for the very nice advise, and it would be highly appreciated indeed.

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    We won't do it for children. . .

    but we have done it for a few teenagers. It depends on what their current glasses look like.

    As for glass, I don't do it for patients, but my Dad and I both have ArtCraft Rimways with corning thin & dark lenses in them. Of course, he's 87 and unlikely to sue me!
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    I too think it depends on their previous glasses and how they took care of them. I actually would rather put some of them in a drill(the flex kind) than a semi. It never fails as much as the patient and their parents want a semi-it ALWAYS comes back chipped or the lenses gone. I've only put a couple of teens in the felxable drill mounts, but they were also 16 and 17 yrs old and girls(which seem to be less hard on their glasses).

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    The reason for not dispensing rimless to youths (including college age ones) is not the amount of repair that you have to do to the glasses. It's the safety of the patient and your liability if you will. These people do things (like volleyball) and all sorts of activity that adults have for the most part forgone. Thier parents have lawyers. The get knocked around, they get into fights and just accidental "bumpings". They will not put on a pair of sports glasses for these activities (they won't do much they are advised to do) they pile into the back seats of cars and bump into each others heads. The fact that thier "safety" record has been spotless in the past has nothing to do with what might happen tonight or tommarow.

    Always practice CYA.

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    Dad and I both have ArtCraft Rimways with corning thin & dark lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Framebender
    As for glass, I don't do it for patients, but my Dad and I both have ArtCraft Rimways with corning thin & dark lenses in them. Of course, he's 87 and unlikely to sue me!
    So I would assume to be right by saying .......................you must like them.

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    Glasses not glass lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Jong
    Some of our customers want to fix their glasses with glass lenses for rimless frame, please advise do it or not?
    sorry if my statement was confusing

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    Don't know about your state or company, but we utilize a "Duty to Warn" form whenever ordering/dispensing something not quite right.

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    Doesn't relinquish your responsbility and/or reduce possibility of lawsuit, but shows they were warned.

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    Glass lenses for rimless frame

    Quote Originally Posted by k12311997
    sorry if my statement was confusing
    Oh no, your statement was not confusing.
    The question is, sometimes our customers want to fix their rimless glasses with glass lenses, and for the safety reason then I have to refuse to fix it. Thanks.

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