possible to un-polish lens edges?

[AWTECH]

Great Quote

Great Quote Framebender:

The only praise that counts is what you think of yourself. Everything else is just temporary.

Henry "Smokey" Yunick

I had not heard that before. It is so true, if you critique yourself and are happy with the results, who cares what others think! Where did you find that quote?

I use a different philosophy today than many individuals. I worry about the quality of my work. I set standards high and I find my customers are very happy. (most of the time).

Today too many people try to squeeze money out a business that just is not there. If you do a good job of building and/or servicing your customer and you have a business basic plan with enough gross profit in the work you do, then the bottom line profits will take care of themselves.

[Framebender]

Henry "Smokey" Yunick. . .

owned, The Best Damn Garage in Daytona Beach. I had an uncle that raced Indians and got Smokey to do some work for him. They became drinking buddies and spent time with him in Ecuador drilling for oil and mining for gold. Later in life my Uncle put 3 kids trough college playing cards and the horses.

I got to spend some time with him later in his life and he always held up Smokey, who never finished high school, as someone who proved that the system wasn't for everyone. The quote was one of my Uncles favorites and its made a big impression on me and how I try to live my life.

If you go to smokeyyunick.com and click on the bio you'll see that not only was he a talented mechanic, but also an inventor and engineer.
:cheers:

[optixbil]

The correct way to eliminate the glare is with an anti-reflective coating. This can be applied at any time.

Bill Belanger

Hi, I just got new semi-rimless glasses. When I recived them I noticed the edges weren't polished and since my prescription is fairly high (-5.25 R, -4.5 L) I asked if they could send them back to get the edges polished. The optician said they could, but that they couldn't be polished the same way they normally do as they would have to have done it origionally when I first purchased them. I agreed.
When I got them and put them on at home, I noticed a large amount of glare and it's been really really distracting me.

I'm wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to have the lenses "un-polished" ?

Thanks

[Dave Nelson]

AR treatment is not applicable here, and cannot be applied anytime.

[optixbil]

I guess I need to ask 1.) why and 2.) why not?

Bill

AR treatment is not applicable here, and cannot be applied anytime.

[AWTECH]

AR Treatment Anytime

Well technically you can apply AR at anytime. Most facilities will not AR process cut lenses.

AR is also not applicable to this situation since the edge of a rimless frame picks up the glare due to light entering the lens from the rimless portion of the lens. Since AR is designed to increase light transmission this is exactly an example of where you would not want to use AR. AR for the lens surfaces on this or almost any lens is very desirable however.

[AWTECH]

Smokey what a guy

Framebender;

Thanks for the info. I knew Smokey slightly and used to see him every year at Indy before he passed away. And he is a great example of education is very important in life, and he had a great one, he was self taught and knew who to listen to and who not to listen too.

Can you imagine a company the size of GM hiring an outside expert today who did not even graduate high school? Well in the 60's and 70's GM hired Smokey and he almost on developed engine performance componets that GM engineers said could not be done.

One of those rare truely and brillent people.

[optixbil]

I'm sorry to disagree, but having owned a wholesale lab for over 32 years, we have always sent edged lenses out for A/R, many times after the patient decided to have it done after wearing the glasses. We have used many different coating facilities.

An A/R will absolutely reduce glare no matter where it comes from since it "traps" the reflections between the front and rear surface of the lens. We have many times satisfied a patient's complaint of polished edged glare with an A/R. Don't mean to be confrontational, just trying to help the original poster.

Bill

Well technically you can apply AR at anytime. Most facilities will not AR process cut lenses.

AR is also not applicable to this situation since the edge of a rimless frame picks up the glare due to light entering the lens from the rimless portion of the lens. Since AR is designed to increase light transmission this is exactly an example of where you would not want to use AR. AR for the lens surfaces on this or almost any lens is very desirable however.

[Dave Nelson]

I find AR coating a cut lens to be unsucessful most of the time due to the small runs which can occur around scratches in the lens. There may not be scratches if a cut lens is a week or two old, but invariably will be after a period of time. As to having an AR coat help with "edge glare" My experience is that it will not, since light rays are hitting the polished edge at the "critical angle" and being reflected like a mirror. If your experience is different and you find AR helps in this situation, then by all means use it. Incidently, I thought Benjamin Martin solved this problem in London circa 1750 with his invention "Martins margins" he simply lined his eyewire with large horn inserts and blocked the peripheral rays. I think the system is still in use in Britain, or maybe they have discovered AR coatings by now.:cheers:

[chip anderson]

AW: GM until the '60's always hired people who had worked thier way up the line. It always made a profit. Then they started hireing college "educated" managers. The first year they had a CEO with a college education, the lost money. They have continued with such CEO's and continued to loose money.

Chip

[Samuel Jong]

Un-polished

Have you ever heard of anyone wanting lenses un-polished?

Yes, some of the patients didn't want their lenses to be polished, since they were also facing the same problem - Glare!

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Samuel

[chip anderson]

Remember we are talking about the edges not the front and back surfaces, I have had quite a few (before I stopped polishing all edge surfaces as freebie extra service) complain about the glare from same and ask that I remove the polished surface.

Chip

Just another good intention gone wrong.

[spartus]

AW: GM until the '60's always hired people who had worked thier way up the line. It always made a profit. Then they started hireing college "educated" managers. The first year they had a CEO with a college education, the lost money. They have continued with such CEO's and continued to loose money.

Chip

Correlation is not causality. Can't say it enough.

[Chris Ryser]

you can still polish and un-polish the same way as in the old days.

This discussion about polished or nor polished lenses existed already in the 1950s and 60s with the only difference that during those days the lenses were made from glass.

If we sold a pair of lenses with polished lenses and the customer came back sating that the glare bothered him. We passed the lenses over the ceramic stone, 30 seconds per lens.........................or if he had non-polished edges and wanted them polished,................we buffed them on a felt wheel which took maybe 2 minutes per lens.

Today we use plastic lenses which are even easier to handle...........you can still polish and un-polish the same way as in the old days. On polycarb you can even polish edges by jusr wiping a chemicals over the edge.

[rsandr]

I'm sorry to disagree, but having owned a wholesale lab for over 32 years, we have always sent edged lenses out for A/R, many times after the patient decided to have it done after wearing the glasses. We have used many different coating facilities.

Do they hard coat them?

The lab we use for coatings will AR coat a lens but will only hard coat it first if it is a full blank. I only like to sell hard/AR coats.