Frame Rep.

**sanders71** · 03-30-2006, 10:29 PM

Do frame reps. work on commision or how are they paid? How much? Thanks!

**sharonm516** · 03-31-2006, 12:49 PM

I would think it would depend on the company, but from my understanding, most reps work on commission with a base salary. But thats a great question!!!

**LENNY** · 03-31-2006, 10:55 PM

Are not they do it for FUN?
It is a lot of fun to drive around and meet new people.

**chip anderson** · 03-31-2006, 11:26 PM

Almost all are now "indenpendent contractors" . Most frame companies went to this some years back to avoid, benefits, liabilities, pensions, and other expenses.

Chip

Almost all are paid on percent of sales only.

Chip

And yes they pay for thier own cars.

**Johns** · 04-02-2006, 10:48 AM

It's a very glamorous job.

-You get to drive fancy cars.
-Take people out to lunch all day.
-Wear fine clothes.

### NOT!! ###

Sales reps (almost all of them) are grossly underpaid. When you work on commission, your pay does not always reflect the amount of work you do.

**Chris Ryser** · 04-02-2006, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Johns

It's a very glamorous job.

-You get to drive fancy cars.
-Take people out to lunch all day.
-Wear fine clothes.

Johns...................You must be dreaming in color.

When you a are talking about a frame sales rep............he or she is paid on commission, with an out front drawing against that commisson. Returned frames will be a deduction against the commission.

There are maybe 2 out of 10 that are extremely good and can afford fancy cars, and when taking customers out for lunch has to bring in a return in orders. I bet you no rep is taking you out for lunch if you give him an order for 20 frames.

They also have to make cold calls, get kicked out by bad mooded customers, are made to wait hours and them get no sale or a small one.

The sleep in Motel and Hotel rooms night after night and the family is a few hundred miles away.

If they do make good money they have earned every cent they make. It is not an easy and very lonely job and it takes a very special kind of people that endure and take it.

**chip anderson** · 04-02-2006, 02:17 PM

Don't let Chris tell you this is the whole story.

I am also shure that they travel on a buss, get group rates at the same hotel, play golf together and take vacations together.

How do I know this? I can go for 6 weeks and not see one and then see eight a day for five days running. Between the second week of December and the first week of February, we don't see them at all.
I'm telling you they are herd animals.
Also 95% of them don't know how to use the telephone and make appointments.

Chip

**Johns** · 04-02-2006, 03:42 PM

Chris,

No, I'm not dreaming!

I lived it!

It's not any of those things I mentioned...not at all.

**Chris Ryser** · 04-05-2006, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by Johns

Chris,

No, I'm not dreaming!

I lived it!

It's not any of those things I mentioned...not at all.

So we agree...............When I had my fgrame company I built up territories before p[utting in sales reps........so I was my own sales rep for 13 years.......and ended up with 9 sales reps that had to be babied when times were rough..

I have no more desire to live in a hotel room eat in restaurants, and can do with as little travel as posasible,

**jas256** · 04-05-2006, 08:23 AM

I know Safilo reps are 100% commission! They get a draw at the beginning of each month to get them going.

In all fairness, being a frame rep (at least for Safilo) is a soft-sale. Their frames are good and they have several lines that are popular. Trust me, they don't have to work extremely hard. However, you have to have the right personality and kind of be "born" for that type of job

Jim

**Johns** · 04-05-2006, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by jas256

I know Safilo reps are 100% commission! They get a draw at the beginning of each month to get them going.

In all fairness, being a frame rep (at least for Safilo) is a soft-sale. Their frames are good and they have several lines that are popular. Trust me, they don't have to work extremely hard. However, you have to have the right personality and kind of be "born" for that type of job

Jim

Now this guy really is a dreamer!

100% comissions?
Soft sale ?
Don't have to work hard?

If the products sold themselves, they wouldn't need reps. I don't care how glamourous you think a line is, the job of selling them is anything but! I don't care if it's Oakleys or Silver Dollar. Reps work hard and earn every penny. There's no free lunch.

**Chris Ryser** · 04-06-2006, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Johns

Reps work hard and earn every penny. There's no free lunch.

I fully have to back Johns on that one.

When you drive 1 1/2 hours hours from the nearest town you been working to see the only optometrist in the area..............then he let's you wait over one hour and generously gives you an order for one pair of temples because he does want buy any frames because of upcpming inventory.

Then you drive back to the town you where in to continue seeing other customers.

Those are the real glamorous moments a rep can expierience.

**caonimaxuebi** · 04-08-2006, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Chris Ryser

I fully have to back Johns on that one.

When you drive 1 1/2 hours hours from the nearest town you been working to see the only optometrist in the area..............then he let's you wait over one hour and generously gives you an order for one pair of temples because he does want buy any frames because of upcpming inventory.

Then you drive back to the town you where in to continue seeing other customers.

Those are the real glamorous moments a rep can expierience.

Before you went to see that optometrist, did he tell you what he wanted?

**Chris Ryser** · 04-08-2006, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by caonimaxuebi

Before you went to see that optometrist, did he tell you what he wanted?

Of course not.......................I would not have driven that distance. But it can and does happen to reps opn the road. It is not always an easy life.