Taking Progressive or Bifocal Seg Heights

[Lyrix76]

Hi, for anyone out there, I'm having a small problem w/taking seg heights I never can tell if the customer is sitting at the same height as I am???? Does anyone have a cure for this problem?? If so PLEASE HELP!!!, I'm 5'5" & vertically challenged, especially when it comes to seeing if someone is sitting at the same height as I am :( please help! the funny thing is though, that I always seem to get the height right, but I'm a perfectionist, so I need everything to be just so.

Thanks Everyone

[QDO1]

Hi, for anyone out there, I'm having a small problem w/taking seg heights I never can tell if the customer is sitting at the same height as I am???? Does anyone have a cure for this problem?? If so PLEASE HELP!!!, I'm 5'5" & vertically challenged, especially when it comes to seeing if someone is sitting at the same height as I am :( please help! the funny thing is though, that I always seem to get the height right, but I'm a perfectionist, so I need everything to be just so.

Thanks Everyone

put a large mirror to the side of the patient, on the wall - and have a quick look. I am 6'5, and have the opisite problem, and thats what I do If I can

[rbaker]

In keeping with my New Years resolution to try to be more sarcastic in 2006, I submit the following.

• Get a carpenters framing level at least four feet long.
• Assume the position.
• Place one end on top of patients left ear and the other end on the top of your right ear.
• Have colleague view spirit levels from the side and advise you when level.
• Take appropriate segment height measurement.
• With level still in place have another colleague take a vertical measurement from lower edge of level to outer canthus of the patients left eye.
• While still maintaining the proper position have another colleague take a vertical measurement from the lower edge of the level to the outer canthus of your right eye.
• Adjust your measurements trigonometrically to account for the slant induced by the difference in the vertical height between both yours and the patients facial dissymmetry.
• Write 2 below on the order form.

Duck soup

[chip anderson]

Always re-check this with the patient standing, in a relaxed stance looking straight ahead, eyes in level gaze. Measurements taken at a table are not reliable as your ht., the patient's ht., sitting posture, etc. all influcence the results.

[C-10]

Always re-check this with the patient standing, in a relaxed stance looking straight ahead, eyes in level gaze. Measurements taken at a table are not reliable as your ht., the patient's ht., sitting posture, etc. all influcence the results.

Keep in minded that if you are a little shorter than most people you maybe a little low when measuring standing up so what I do is to try to sq. myself with them when sitting down and take the difference

[Snitgirl]

Just a tip:

The chair that you are sitting on while taking the measurement, make sure you can adjust it to go higher or lower.

[Lyrix76]

Hi

put a large mirror to the side of the patient, on the wall - and have a quick look. I am 6'5, and have the opisite problem, and thats what I do If I can

Hi, thanks so much for the response, unfortunately in our store that's not really possible to do. But I do appreciate the advice, thanks again :bbg:

[Lyrix76]

In keeping with my New Years resolution to try to be more sarcastic in 2006, I submit the following.

• Get a carpenters framing level at least four feet long.
• Assume the position.
• Place one end on top of patients left ear and the other end on the top of your right ear.
• Have colleague view spirit levels from the side and advise you when level.
• Take appropriate segment height measurement.
• With level still in place have another colleague take a vertical measurement from lower edge of level to outer canthus of the patients left eye.
• While still maintaining the proper position have another colleague take a vertical measurement from the lower edge of the level to the outer canthus of your right eye.
• Adjust your measurements trigonometrically to account for the slant induced by the difference in the vertical height between both yours and the patients facial dissymmetry.
• Write 2 below on the order form.

Duck soup

LOL very funny, I needed that thanks:cheers:

[karen]

I am a tall girl so I would-when in doubt, get up, go around the table get on my knees (behave everybody!!) and make sure I was on eye level and double check my measurements. After I dotted then I would go back around sit down and talk to them for a few minutes to see how they really held their head in real life (you say "measurement" to some folks and they tense right up) As time went by and I got more confident I did not need to do it as often but it always helped.

[gola]

Maybe a stupid idea but if there where a device that is placed in the frame near the customer pupil level that would be like a hologram that you see the correct image if you are at the level of the customer. Or something you should line up.

[Lady Nicole]

Watching the patient's head movement/posture is very important to me while I'm taking seg heights. I make the measuring part of the process as low-key as possible so they don't tense up, have them stand up and look out the window while I watch to see if they are looking through where I marked the lenses, and then we sit down and talk about the order some more so they will forget about being tense. If the marks still line up after all this, great- otherwise I adjust them a little bit as needed. Make sure you've adjusted the frame before starting all this, too! :bbg:

[CJ65]

Seg Height

Yes - I echo what Nicole said. I work in a store in a mall and I always (especially with a lined b/f) mark the seg and then have them turn around and look out across the mall to make sure that the line does not interfere with their distance vision.

It's tougher with PALS, as the lab ultimately has some leeway (I think like 2mm) as to where they place the seg. But a slight adjustment of nosepads or panto at dispensing can also correct any minimal problems.

Chris

[spartus]

It's tougher with PALS, as the lab ultimately has some leeway (I think like 2mm) as to where they place the seg. But a slight adjustment of nosepads or panto at dispensing can also correct any minimal problems.

If the lab's moving my seg measurement 2 mm, I'm changing labs. Yesterday.

[Framebender]

I'm killin'. . .

the lab rat and holding his body hostage!!
:drop:

[mhboptics]

I like to have the patient sitting, use a sharpie and dot the center. Then with them sitting, you can stand in any position to feel eye level.