please help me in finalizing choices to find another opticain to go to

[Sandy]

I will use rimless frame; My rx is

+1.50 -0.75 150
-0.25 -0.50 040 (Add is 150)

Now that the optician I went to (drove 3 hours total back and forth because he could fill any lens but he wouldn't even discuss any thing except telling me to do Pentax which no one in this forum knows about. )

So, please help me to narrow down good choices for my RX (shown below) so that I can call places and ask whteher they fill those. Keep in mind about rimless frame, i.e what lens to use aside from ploycarbonate which is also marketed with different names. In another word, please do not suggest me things like airwear which are polycarbonate I beleve. No price comparison either since spending a little more is no big deal if I were to be as content as possible. Priority is on quality of vision, sturdiness of lens, and appearance of course.

I wish you guys are no far from me to come fill the lens.

This will be the last time I will bother you all. Thanks.

[QDO1]

I will use rimless frame; My rx is

+1.50 -0.75 150
-0.25 -0.50 040 (Add is 150)

Now that the optician I went to (drove 3 hours total back and forth because he could fill any lens but he wouldn't even discuss any thing except telling me to do Pentax which no one in this forum knows about. )

So, please help me to narrow down good choices for my RX (shown below) so that I can call places and ask whteher they fill those. Keep in mind about rimless frame, i.e what lens to use aside from ploycarbonate which is also marketed with different names. In another word, please do not suggest me things like airwear which are polycarbonate I beleve. No price comparison either since spending a little more is no big deal if I were to be as content as possible. Priority is on quality of vision, sturdiness of lens, and appearance of course.

I wish you guys are no far from me to come fill the lens.

This will be the last time I will bother you all. Thanks.

steady on.. what do you want to know about Pentax

[Chris Ryser]

+1.50 -0.75 150
-0.25 -0.50 040 (Add is 150)

Priority is on quality of vision, sturdiness of lens, and appearance of course.

I wish you guys are no far from me to come fill the lens.

This will be the last time I will bother you all. Thanks.

Sandy, ...................take this form a guy that has been around since glass lenses were the only thing you could get.

Your prescription does not need any special brand.........nor any specific material..............regular plastic CR39 lenses will be perfect for you and the least expensive. Dont let you talk into all the extras which will just be extra bucks out of your pocket. Maybe get some UV protection which is always of big benefit in the long run and stop there.

[Sandy]

Sandy, ...................take this form a guy that has been around since glass lenses were the only thing you could get.

Your prescription does not need any special brand.........nor any specific material..............regular plastic CR39 lenses will be perfect for you and the least expensive. Dont let you talk into all the extras which will just be extra bucks out of your pocket. Maybe get some UV protection which is always of big benefit in the long run and stop there.

The key word here is *rimless*. In another word, I can't use CR-39 with rimless. Rimless frame because I gave up on looking for non-rimless frame.

[Sandy]

steady on.. what do you want to know about Pentax

Well, with panamic, I get the information explained on the website. Basically, info such as it has wider intermediate than other Varilux PAL. With Rodenstock Impression ILT xs, I was explained here in this forum that it is like Panamic but but better in distance.

Where does Pentax fall in compared to these two? Also, What AR coating would it be? Is it realy a Japanese brand? Not in the market yet? But more expensive than Panamic? Price given was $425 + 80 for not buying the frame at his place thopugh he said that the fee is for cutting the lens.

And the fact that it's 15mm fitting height. I read here that anything that would give good intermediate along withgood near and good far would need 18mm or hight ft. ht. So I need verification on all this.

[Sandy]

steady on.. what do you want to know about Pentax

I hope you or someone can tell me about pentax optical lens.

[Sandy]

I hope you or someone can tell me about pentax optical lens.

Especially the part where it would be better than Panamic with only 15mm ft. ht. Even though I am getting Shamir Office, I want my regular pair with the best intermediate available out there for US.

[Snitgirl]

Sandy, ...................take this form a guy that has been around since glass lenses were the only thing you could get.

Your prescription does not need any special brand.........nor any specific material..............regular plastic CR39 lenses will be perfect for you and the least expensive. Dont let you talk into all the extras which will just be extra bucks out of your pocket. Maybe get some UV protection which is always of big benefit in the long run and stop there.

Chris, can I ask why you wouldn't reccmd anti-reflection coating? thanks :D

[For-Life]

This is exactly the problem I have PAL suggestion in this forum and exactly the reason why I have not chimed in.

Just because the people of the forum may not be affluent with that particular lens does not make it a bad lens.

Do not go shop to shop looking for a certain lens, because frankly that is not what matters.

What matters is that you find an optician that is educated, intelligent, and willing to give you incredible service. Then allow that optician to give you the suggestion of different frame and lens choice. From that point you pick what you feel will give you the best value.

The fitter is more important than the lens and frame, because if he or she is a great fitter then you will come out with a great lens and frame.

[QDO1]

I've been dispensing Pentax in the UK for years, asking what Pentax is like is asking me what GM is like. I drive a Omega (catera), which is nothing like a corsa

Each manufacturer has a stable of lenses, like each car manufacturer has a range of cars. the big difference in cars might be between supermini and SUV, a GM SUV is comprable to the ford version etc. at the end of the day they all work, but have a different approach or flavour


the difficulty with what you are asking us is:
we all regularlaly use the folowing manufacturers:

• Seiko
• Younger
• Pentax
• Essilor
• Rodenstock
• Nikon
• Norville
• American Optical
• Zeiss
• Sola
• Kodak
• Hoya

there are many more esoteric manufacturers

Each of which has thier own comprehensive range of lenses, with all the variants of Index / transitions / coatings etc.
after years of experience we understand the nuances between the lenses in the ranges... and on top of that we have to keep up with the constant progression, which means my post box at home is full of promo material about the latest greatest lens

Info on the companies website is somewhat irrelevant. As a practitioner, I have a hard time deciphering what is marketing hype (most of it) and what is lens fact (very little of it). thats why i tend to make qualified and qualititive judgements about lenses, using information accumulated by companies like Norvilles (in the UK) or reports by profesionals like Dr Sheedy. I then "trial" a new lens, and form an opinion, after inspecting the lenses forensically when they pass through my hands

the lens choices you were at last time i read your posts were excelent, so dont get bogged down with all the other choice out there

[Sandy]

I've been dispensing Pentax in the UK for years, asking what Pentax is like is asking me what GM is like. I drive a Omega (catera), which is nothing like a corsa

Each manufacturer has a stable of lenses, like each car manufacturer has a range of cars. the big difference in cars might be between supermini and SUV, a GM SUV is comprable to the ford version etc. at the end of the day they all work, but have a different approach or flavour


the difficulty with what you are asking us is:
we all regularlaly use the folowing manufacturers:

• Seiko
• Younger
• Pentax
• Essilor
• Rodenstock
• Nikon
• Norville
• American Optical
• Zeiss
• Sola
• Kodak
• Hoya

there are many more esoteric manufacturers

Each of which has thier own comprehensive range of lenses, with all the variants of Index / transitions / coatings etc.
after years of experience we understand the nuances between the lenses in the ranges... and on top of that we have to keep up with the constant progression, which means my post box at home is full of promo material about the latest greatest lens

Info on the companies website is somewhat irrelevant. As a practitioner, I have a hard time deciphering what is marketing hype (most of it) and what is lens fact (very little of it). thats why i tend to make qualified and qualititive judgements about lenses, using information accumulated by companies like Norvilles (in the UK) or reports by profesionals like Dr Sheedy. I then "trial" a new lens, and form an opinion, after inspecting the lenses forensically when they pass through my hands

the lens choices you were at last time i read your posts were excelent, so dont get bogged down with all the other choice out there

Iassume you are referring to me when you said "you". Was my last choice you were referring was "Varilux Panamic", or "Rodenstock Impression ILT xs"? If Panamic, I have a place locally to go to - they fills only varilux, nothing else. If Rodenstock, I can find one in San Francisco if I choose to rather than here. I will be moving to SF Bay Area in 7 months anyway.

Can you please reply me here or send me a private message about which one (Panamic or Rodenstock) you meant by "my last choice"? Would Trivex be available with those? If not, I'll just use high index as I do not want poly at all.

I want to order the frame today, if possible. Hope someone answers the questions on the thread for frames or send me private message.

[QDO1]

Iassume you are referring to me when you said "you". Was my last choice you were referring was "Varilux Panamic", or "Rodenstock Impression ILT xs"? If Panamic, I have a place locally to go to - they fills only varilux, nothing else. If Rodenstock, I can find one in San Francisco if I choose to rather than here. I will be moving to SF Bay Area in 7 months anyway.

Can you please reply me here or send me a private message about which one (Panamic or Rodenstock) you meant by "my last choice"? Would Trivex be available with those? If not, I'll just use high index as I do not want poly at all.

I want to order the frame today, if possible. Hope someone answers the questions on the thread for frames or send me private message.

both are excelent lenses. As you are going for an occupational lens too, I would dispense the Rodenstock 1.6 ILT XS, as this is a full on short corridor lens

[rinselberg]

Can you please reply me here or send me a private message about which one (Panamic or Rodenstock) you meant by "my last choice"? Would Trivex be available with those? If not, I'll just use high index as I do not want poly at all.

Sandy: You will not be able to get a Varilux or Rodenstock lens in the trivex material, according to my web research. I just posted a list of PAL (progressive) lenses that are available in trivex:

http://www.optiboard.com/forums/show...6&postcount=13

[QDO1]

Sandy: You will not be able to get a Varilux or Rodenstock lens in the trivex material, according to my web research. I just posted a list of PAL (progressive) lenses that are available in trivex:

http://www.optiboard.com/forums/show...6&postcount=13

we will all be pleased when the material goes mainstream at all the manufacturers

[fvc2020]

Sandy


You said you are getting a Shamir Office, why not use a Shamir Piccolo or Gensis? Two great lenses, with great vision.

Christina

Ps
Chris again why no ar for this patient?

[shellrob]

I agree with For-life...I think it's ok that you're out to search for the perfect pair of glasses and you have that right, but don't get too caught up in the brand names of lenses. It's only going to confuse you and if you have a knowledgable and experienced Optician, then you don't need to worry all that much about the brand. They're all going to do the same thing for you, it's the measurements, frame selection, etc that count the most not the actual brand name lens. Finding the right Optician should be the most important thing you do right now.

[Sandy]

Sandy: You will not be able to get a Varilux or Rodenstock lens in the trivex material, according to my web research. I just posted a list of PAL (progressive) lenses that are available in trivex:

http://www.optiboard.com/forums/show...6&postcount=13

Thanks for the info. Then I'll use high index.

[Sandy]

Sandy


You said you are getting a Shamir Office, why not use a Shamir Piccolo or Gensis? Two great lenses, with great vision.

Christina

Ps
Chris again why no ar for this patient?

I thought about that. Even though I am getting a computer pair, I want my regualr pair with the best internmediate available, of cousre, after the best far and near as the top priority.

[Sandy]

both are excelent lenses. As you are going for an occupational lens too, I would dispense the Rodenstock 1.6 ILT XS, as this is a full on short corridor lens

What does it means "a full on short corridor lens"? I do know what it means by short corrdor lens.

[Sandy]

both are excelent lenses. As you are going for an occupational lens too, I would dispense the Rodenstock 1.6 ILT XS, as this is a full on short corridor lens

Here is what I got from google search on short corridor lens - I don't like the drawbacks:

SHORT CORRIDOR
PROGRESSIVE LENSES Fitting heights: 14-17 mm Advantages Fit small, fashionable frames Drawbacks Peripheral distortion Smaller zones for near and intermediate Harder designs than standard progressives Some compromise in intermediate and/or near vision

[Sandy]

I agree with For-life...I think it's ok that you're out to search for the perfect pair of glasses and you have that right, but don't get too caught up in the brand names of lenses. It's only going to confuse you and if you have a knowledgable and experienced Optician, then you don't need to worry all that much about the brand. They're all going to do the same thing for you, it's the measurements, frame selection, etc that count the most not the actual brand name lens. Finding the right Optician should be the most important thing you do right now.

Trust me that I am not caught up on brand names. Even for clothes, I don't buy just because it is brand name but I notice that all my Ralph Lauren jeans (of different colors) and pants (of different material) fit much bitter at least for now. That may be the case becaue of my small frame and may not be the case with everyone. So, I don't buy based on the brand. I try it and buy it if I like. I have never bought anything based on brand name except for computers or TV or stuff like that. For example, ever since one of my favorite brand Eddie Bauer increasd its size on pants, I can't wear Eddie Bauer line anymore even when I get a smaller size, actually the smallest size. So I let it go.

With optical lens, I can't try before I by and so I get informed first and then try by buying. That's all.

Don't worry people. If I could find just one optician I could trust locally, I would really save time from inquiring all this information as I have so many things I'd rather be doing all of which require quality vision to be productive.

In a way, I am glad that I ended up going out of town (though I still need to find another optician for my regular pair) since the next time I need new lens, I will be living closer to that city.

[Sandy]

both are excelent lenses. As you are going for an occupational lens too, I would dispense the Rodenstock 1.6 ILT XS, as this is a full on short corridor lens

I just want to mention that despite getting an optical lens, I want the best combination of far, near, and intermediate possible since there will be days that I won't have my computer lens with me and yet I might end up going to the office directly from some other activities. I really don't want to carry my computer lens everywhere.

[Snitgirl]

Sandy, what city are you in?

[rinselberg]

What does it mean a "full on" short corridor lens? I know what it means by short corrdor lens.

Same thing. "Full on" means "definitely" - no ifs, ands or buts. I'm sure that's what QD01 was saying up there. He posts from England - they talk a little bit different over there.

[QDO1]

Here is what I got from google search on short corridor lens - I don't like the drawbacks: SHORT CORRIDORPROGRESSIVE LENSES Fitting heights: 14-17 mm Advantages Fit small, fashionable frames Drawbacks Peripheral distortion Smaller zones for near and intermediate Harder designs than standard progressives Some compromise in intermediate and/or near vision

The lens wans not just plucked out of the air - it was a carefully considered opinion. The Prog life XS has one of the widest near zones of any lens currently available on the market, and is one of the quickest from distance into near. Fitted intellegently, the lens will not suffer from perpheral distortion. In essence this lens is the opisite of the occupational type lens, and will be easier to get on with, when you are not working. The reason I infered the panamic was not a short corridor lens is that its fiting height has "magically" been lowered over the years, without a lens re-design. Fitted at the current specification in a shallow frame is a recipe for a bucket full of peripheral distortion in the distance. The Prog Life is a is a semi-soft design. Hard doesnt mean "hard to get on with" it describes the way the lens is blended.

The lens choice for the regular pair was complimentary one to the occupational lens. Assuming you will use both pairs of spectacles for the tasks they are designed - I can see a well rounded package