Request please

[jewel]

I have an embarrasing request,:o albeight needful at the same time. I have been out of the Optical business for 10 years and have taken a part time position just yesterday in an Optical shop and I need to brush up. Please.... would some of you be so kind as to refresh me as to what these mean and anything else you can think I would need reminded of .

Just a few here;

Hoya ( I beleive this is fairly new? )
Presbyope
Parabolic curve
vertex distance
1.7 index
Anisometropic
Vertical meridiam
prism
Panascopic tilt

Whats the scoop on Transistions? Improvements on?

High index lenses?
Frames?
Ar?
Tints?
Coatings?



I know there are other terms and with day by day use they will come back to me, but the help would sure be appreciated.

jewel

[drk]

I would recommend you get a cup of coffee and read through all these threads. You will pick up a lot.

What you're asking for here, though, is someone to type out a primer on opticianry? Doubt many have the time or inclination for that.

[drk]

Not to be accusatory, but is your employer trying to quiz you before you get hired? That's what this sounds like...a homework assignment. Do your own homework!:finger:

[chip anderson]

If you don't know, you weren't in the business more than two days the first time.

Go to the ABO web site, buy a book, read it.

[jewel]

Um, thanks so much for the replys. I really appreciate your insight and kind responses.
I was in the business for 10 years pryer to my 10 years out of the business. I'am a little rusty. I did not think much about Opticianary for most of my time out beleiving I would never enter it again. But here I'am , in again.
I will and have been lurking since I joined the forum and I beleive I will continue to do so considering the very kind and considerate responses I have already received from some.
As far as my new boss asking me to brush up and quizing me, no. I'm just wanting to walk in there on my first day brushed up . I have been trying to remember what I need to know.
I have plenty of books, but I thought I could get some new info , etc.. from you all.

:(

[Specs]

How about we add in a few other topics and just right you your own personal text book on Opticianry. Don't think so. Just do a search on your computer for each of those terms and you'll get a general idea of each. Look up lens stretcher tool too, you might be asked to get one by your co-workers.

[jewel]

Goodness ... What a bunch of arrogant snots ! You all seem to have your underpants in a knot here. I'm not asking for a silly book, just a little help. Forget it.

Sheesh......... :drop:

[Blake]

Hoya - Georgetown U. mascot
Presbyope - Protestant denomination with Calvinist roots
Parabolic curve - a curve with two bolics
vertex distance - the distance from one end of the vertex to the other
1.7 index - a list of all the uses of the number 1.7
Anisometropic - the third tropic, where all the hurricanes start
Vertical meridiam - the meridiam (?) that goes up and down
prism - a pretty crystal that sparkles in the light.
Panascopic tilt - what happens when your Panascope shoulda had a V-8.

Whats the scoop on Transistions? Improvements on? The Photogrey lenses now come in Brown as well as Grey.

High index lenses? the indices just keep gettin' higher.
Frames? Still got those!
Ar? Having a pirate moment?
Tints? all the colors of the rainbow!
Coatings? These were discontinued in 1998 due to pressure from the European Union Council on Litigious Superfluousity. Darn those French!

Seriously, best wishes in your new endeavor. It'll all come back to you if you had it in the first place. If not, maybe now's a great time to learn. Unfortunately the best learnin' comes from research, not a "cheat sheet" somebody else made up. Get your hands on some trade magazines, surf some web sites and ask thoughtful questions. You don't have to have it all together on Day One.

[chip anderson]

Jewel:

Sorry to continue to be a snot but If you were in the business 10 years and didn't learn and retain such basic essentials. You have a really bad case of Alziemers and any further attempt to learn would be a waste of time.

Chip

[jewel]

Hey all. Thanks so much for the nice friendly responses. Please don't bother to respond anymore. I'm outta here.

[Jedi]

Goodness ... What a bunch of arrogant snots ! You all seem to have your underpants in a knot here. I'm not asking for a silly book, just a little help. Forget it.

Sheesh......... :drop:

What you are asking for is a way to circumvent traditional sources of education that many of us are proud to have obtained. In the province that I practice in, the opticians that are classified as "non-practicing" still have to maintain continuing education credit just like licensed opticians, to prevent situation like you are going through. I recommend enrolling in the optical program nearest you (even via distance learing) or at the very least aquiring a copy of System for Opthalmic Dispensing.

Chris Ryser, a member on this site has compiled a very large list of optical websites that will help you with the current state of new technology. There are also many CE courses on Darryl Meister's website Opticampus.

[Happylady]

Oh my goodness! Couldn't you help her out? They didn't have 1.7 high index plastic lenses 10 years ago. I never heard of Hoya 10 years ago.

There has been loads of changes in transition lenses, ar, coatings, and high index lenses. Whats wrong with helping her with some of it?

I think some of you were rude.:(

[icyou]

I think Blake is hilarious!!!
But even funnier is his/her(jewell ?) public profile listed occupation!
And does this mean I can be an Doctor if I learn all the technical terms???

[hcjilson]

Admitedly there have been changes in the last 10 years however the solution to his/her problem was given in the first response by drk. I suppose someone could spoonfeed the information but jewel chose to complain about the responses rather than DO something about them, which leads more than one of us to think that perhaps jewel was a tad on the lazy side. Should Jewel decide to reread what drk had to say, and excercise just a little initiative, I am sure his/her questions would be answered forthwith. When you dig out the information yourself, you tend to remember it. With many of jewel's questions, I would side with my friend from Mississippi and say even 10 years ago, if Jewel did not have the basic knowledge, Jewel's background is a bit too thin to qualify as an optician.
If Jewel thinks shooting the messenger is going to change anything the jewel is mistaken.

[NavyChief]

Unfortunately, yes there are a lot of rude people in the world and many frequent this board.

I too was out of optics for almost 10 years. I recently went back this past march. Surprisingly, there are just lots of things you don't forget and some that may need refresher. I spent most of my time in optics in the military, so there weren't any such things as progressives and poly was just making an appearance. SV, FT's and execs was it.

Try visiting these sites for information and some online courses you can take. There are so many resources online, it's great.
http://www.opticalinstructor.homestead.com/
http://www.nao.org/
http://www.solaeducation.com/
http://www.transitions.com/Transitio...dex.asp?id=275
http://www.2020mag.com/index.asp?pag...etype=SiteSpec
http://www.checkyearly.com/

Good luck, welcome back and please excuse those less tolerant and understanding.

Laurie

[DPalmer]

I AM IN SHOCK AND REALLY UPSET ABOUT THE WAY YOU GUYS HAVE TREATED JEWEL !! I can't believe you are all so very rude GOD forbid any of you guys ever need any sort of help . You know what if I were out of the business for 10 years I might ask some questions myself . Jewel I sincerely APOLOGIZE for the treatment you got from a couple of rude jerks . Steve and Jo can you give me a hand here cuz I think some people need a wakeup call I thought we were all here to try to help each other not critcize and ridicule them.

:angry: :finger: :drop:

[Lady Nicole]

:angry:

You guys sound like a bunch of arrogant #@%&!

I can't beleive what I'm reading, what the heck is your problem???

Regardless of the request, you don't treat other people that way. What Jewel is asking for is obviously beyond the simple response he/she seems to expect, but you don't just flip someone off like that.

Jeez, people...

And to Jewel, if you're still reading this... you're asking for a whole heck of a lot of information, and if you're starting your job not knowing some of this stuff, you're going to be in big trouble. Go, and go quickly, and get a copy of System for Opthalmic Dispensing and any other books you can get your hands on. The ABO website is a good place to start, and you could try the national federation of opticianry schools. Good Luck!

[Chris Ryser]

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[GOS_Queen]

Jewel ~

Sorry you were treated in that way ... For what it's worth, I have a young apprentice that I nudged into coming to optiboard. She posted a few times but has quit coming to optiboard. I asked her "why" and she said that she couldn't handle some of the egos of the posters. She was really uncomfortable with some of the posts she read and she didn't want to put herself in the possible position of being chided. :( I know I don't post as often as I want to also. I guess I should ask Santa to bring me some flame proof underwear

I think it's sad that people who come here for knowledge and are made to feel stupid for their thurst for knowledge. This industry is so ****ed up ~ 1/2 the states are licensed ... the other 1/2 don't give a damn what you know ... There's not a lot of options for formal education. If you work for a chain, you're an automatic doofus.

Doesn't anyone else wonder why with nearly 4,500 registered users, only about 50 people post regularly (it seems like about 50).

Optiboard is a great resource ~ it would be even better if more people posted. If would be even better if everyone felt welcome. :o

(stepping off soapbox)

Karen

[jewel]

Hello all.

I want to appologize for my rude retailations. They were uncalled for. I was just in shock at the initial responses I received. I didn't mean to come on your board and cause a commotion.
I want to thank you kind posters who have been helpful.
I was in the Optical business for 10 years before I was out for 10 years due to a dissablement ( that is in remission now) and I'm just, well, rusty. Things are coming back as I've been thinking and remembering. By the time I walk in the doors Monday, I'll be ready !

Lady Nicole, thank you for the info. I will be sure to visit that site. I need all the help I can get. (smile) . I already have some books here at home and am going over them. Yes, sigh... I know I had a good sized list. Some of that is already coming back though. Thanks again.

GOS_Queen, thank you as well. I have noticed over the years that it is very hard to obtain good schooling for Opticianary . Just not much is available. Not around where I live anyway. Now that I have the web, maybe I can do something online. This is a good board for info, for sure.. and I will take advantage of it. I wish that years ago, something like this was available.
I probably will not post much if at all, but I thank you so much for your support.

jewel

[jewel]

BTW, I'm a gal. :)

[Chris Ryser]

Jewel ~
Sorry you were treated in that way ... ....................

I think it's sad that people who come here for knowledge and are made to feel stupid for their thurst for knowledge.

Doesn't anyone else wonder why with nearly 4,500 registered users, only about 50 people post regularly (it seems like about 50).

If would be even better if everyone felt welcome.

Some of us older guy's and girls on the Optiboard...........regular posters as you say............do take a lot of our time to set up a decent answer to questions, problems, or give our opinions based on collected expirience over many years in this business.

When somebody drops in and want to know 50 answers to very, very basic questions which would take a few hours of time to reply, when you can find them in your text books or on the web by asking the right questions, it is asking for a lot of time spent by somebody to sit and type up answers. Also I do not believe that member here should give basic optical information but rather discuss current issues.

I don't think your accusations are very valid. Basic optical knowdledge should be a must before serving cistomer/patients in a specialised optical store. This information can be retrieved at many places without taking the time of, as you say, the very few that make postings.

Maybe you should ask the Opiboard to make a new classification of question in basic optics.................but would not garantee that section would be too populated.

[Snitgirl]

Chris, great idea on the new classification of question in basic optics.

I feel it will be very helpful to those who are seeking more basic knowledge.

Some of us older guy's and girls on the Optiboard...........regular posters as you say............do take a lot of our time to set up a decent answer to questions, problems, or give our opinions based on collected expirience over many years in this business.

When somebody drops in and want to know 50 answers to very, very basic questions which would take a few hours of time to reply, when you can find them in your text books or on the web by asking the right questions, it is asking for a lot of time spent by somebody to sit and type up answers. Also I do not believe that member here should give basic optical information but rather discuss current issues.

I don't think your accusations are very valid. Basic optical knowdledge should be a must before serving cistomer/patients in a specialised optical store. This information can be retrieved at many places without taking the time of, as you say, the very few that make postings.

Maybe you should ask the Opiboard to make a new classification of question in basic optics.................but would not garantee that section would be too populated.

[Bill West]

YOU SURE SPELL LIKE AN OPTICIAN

Um, thanks so much for the replys. I really appreciate your insight and kind responses.
I was in the business for 10 years pryer to my 10 years out of the business. I'am a little rusty. I did not think much about Opticianary for most of my time out beleiving I would never enter it again. But here I'am , in again.
I will and have been lurking since I joined the forum and I beleive I will continue to do so considering the very kind and considerate responses I have already received from some.
As far as my new boss asking me to brush up and quizing me, no. I'm just wanting to walk in there on my first day brushed up . I have been trying to remember what I need to know.
I have plenty of books, but I thought I could get some new info , etc.. from you all.

:(

[Darryl Meister]

Anyway, getting back to your original post:

Hoya ( I beleive this is fairly new? ) - A Japanese lens manufacturer with a range of single vision, multifocal, and progressive lenses, as well as a line of antireflection coatings. They now own several laboratories in the US.

Presbyope - A person (generally over 40) whose eyes no longer has enough focusing ability, or accommodation, to read comfortably. Presbyopes need bifocals or reading glasses for near vision.

Parabolic curve - Referring to either the wrap of the frame around the face (face-form tilt or wrap) or a special type of single vision lens design known as an aspheric.

vertex distance - The distance from the back of the spectacle lens to the cornea. An important consideration in high prescriptions.

1.7 index - A type of high-index or "thinner & lighter" lens material. The higher the refractive index, the thinner the lens for a given power. This is the highest index available right now in plastic.

Anisometropic - A significant difference between the prescriptions of the right and left eyes (e.g., +1.00 D Right Eye & +4.00 D Left Eye = 3.00 D of anisometropia).

Vertical meridian - The vertical most plane (or direction) across a spectacle lens.

prism - The deviation, or "bending," of light though a lens without affecting its focus. Light is deviated toward the base (or thickest part) of a prism -- or lens with prism -- though the image appears to be displaced toward the apex for the observer.

Pantoscopic tilt - The vertical tilt of the frame toward the cheeks.

Whats the scoop on Transistions? Improvements on? - Transitions has continued to improve its product. You can find a great deal of information at the Transitions Professional Website.

Are you asking what frames, tints, and coatings are, or how they have been improved?

As some of the others have pointed out, you may also consider getting a basic text or perhaps an ABO prep book of some sort if you really want to brush up on your dispensing skills or knowledge base.