On rimless frame, Varilux Panamic 1.6 versus Rodenstock Impression ILT XS 1.6

**amanda** · 12-01-2005, 07:46 PM

I have been so busy with unexpected things that I haven't bought the rimless frame yet partly because of my hard drive failure and I need to do a bit more research to order it and I'd liek to do it form home.
(I am reusing my current frame and making Shamirr Office - still haven't picked it up yet because everytime I have time to pick it up, the place is closed.)

Q1:
My info for rimless frame is scattered in my email and now I'd like to recap it. From what I remember, the best to buy is Silohuette Rimless with hinges, right?

Q2:
As for the lens, I had decided to do Varilux Panamic. Now I was suggested Varilux panamic Orma lens. I belive Orma is 1.67, right? (For AR. I'll put Crizal ALize')

Q3:
For sunglasses, is there a way (and would it be wise) to use a clip on with (is it even easy to find a suitable clip on like that; would it scratch the lens) my regular pair that would be made with rimless frame?

Thanks.

**Jedi** · 12-01-2005, 08:46 PM

Q1:I prefer the Silhouette without hinges, but all the Minimal Art stuff from them is good.
Q2:Orma is Cr-39, regular plastic.
Q3:Silhouette has a clip that fit on the bridge of the Minimal Art series and can also be customized if you want a shape outside their offerings.

**amanda** · 12-01-2005, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Jedi

Q1:I prefer the Silhouette without hinges, but all the Minimal Art stuff from them is good.

I am after the strength of the frame to hold the lens. So should I get the one with hinges or the one w/o hinges? The reason I am buying rimless frame is that I gave up looking for the frame that has 18mm fitting ht required for Panamic. And I am buying online to save about $80.

Originally Posted by Jedi

Q2:Orma is Cr-39, regular plastic.

I think I can only put poly or high index in rimless; Orma is out then. No poly for me.

Originally Posted by Jedi

Q3:Silhouette has a clip that fit on the bridge of the Minimal Art series and can also be customized if you want a shape outside their offerings.

If I purchase online, will I be able to find the clip on? And who can customize the clip on for me?

**Jedi** · 12-02-2005, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by amanda

I am after the strength of the frame to hold the lens. So should I get the one with hinges or the one w/o hinges?

If I purchase online, will I be able to find the clip on? And who can customize the clip on for me?

As far as strength goes, it really doesn't matter. In regards to the clip-on, I don't know, why don't you ask the place you are buying the frame from.
I hope you do realize the Silhouette frames have multiple bridge and temple sizes. It's kind of tough to find the right size online. They also have an extensive selection of lens shapes, something only a experienced optician can help guide you through. Also don't be surprised if that $80 savings online is eaten up on the cost of drilling the lens. Most offices I've worked in include the cost of drilling in the frame price. When a client would bring in a 3 piece rimless from another source to have lenses mounted a drilling charge was added, $80 is not an unreasonable charge for that. Silhouette needs 8 holes drilled to mount lenses and ruining a lens can happen, hence the seemingly steep charge (doesn't even compare to the cost of a spoiled PAL). Personally a rimless frame is the last eyeglass frame I would ever buy online. Too many variables.

**QDO1** · 12-02-2005, 08:08 AM

the mounts are the same. As a person who wears both, and both have survived on me for at least 4 years with no problems, i would say it doesnt matter. Make sure you get a genuine silhouette frame, and not a copy - the sillouette frames are very very good

the sprung one is trickier to look after when they are not on.. cant find a place in the car to put them when I slip some sunspex on, and the fitting is "different" I recommend you try both on, as, they do fit quite differently from each other, and you might find that you love one compared to the other

BTW sillouette make clip on sunspex that match the lens shapes exactly, order it at the same time

**Bobie** · 12-04-2005, 10:27 AM

1. Silhouette Titan Minimal Art is one of the best rimless frame.

2. Varilux Panamic Orma is index 1.5. If you would like to going for 1.67 , you have to going for Varilux Panamic Stylis 1.67, but the ABBE of Stylis 1.67 is lower than Orma 1.5 about 40% ( Higer is better ).

3. Silhouette Titan Minimal Art have original polarized clip-on that never scratch the surface of lenses.But I recommended you to choose 1.6/42 material that very strong for rimless.

4. I recommended Rodenstcok Impression ILT XS 1.6/42 that cheaper than Varilux Panamic Airwear and much cheaper than Varilux Panamic Stylis 1.67.
Impression ILT XS have much better vision for far like single vision , near and intermediate vision are about the same Panamic.

**amanda** · 12-17-2005, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bobie

1. Silhouette Titan Minimal Art is one of the best rimless frame.

2. Varilux Panamic Orma is index 1.5. If you would like to going for 1.67 , you have to going for Varilux Panamic Stylis 1.67, but the ABBE of Stylis 1.67 is lower than Orma 1.5 about 40% ( Higer is better ).

3. Silhouette Titan Minimal Art have original polarized clip-on that never scratch the surface of lenses.But I recommended you to choose 1.6/42 material that very strong for rimless.

What's 42 stands for? 1.6 irfers to index of lens, right?

[QUOTE=Bobie]4. I recommended Rodenstcok Impression ILT XS 1.6/42 that cheaper than Varilux Panamic Airwear and much cheaper than Varilux Panamic Stylis 1.67.

Varilux Panamic Airwear is polycarbonate, sin't it? What is 1.6/42 of Rodenstcok Impression ILT XS 1.6/42 stands for. Is it polycarbonate category?

Originally Posted by Bobie

Impression ILT XS have much better vision for far like single vision , near and intermediate vision are about the same Panamic.

I like that. Can you tell me what 1.6/42 stands for?

**QDO1** · 12-17-2005, 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=amanda]What's 42 stands for? 1.6 irfers to index of lens, right?

Originally Posted by Bobie

4. I recommended Rodenstcok Impression ILT XS 1.6/42 that cheaper than Varilux Panamic Airwear and much cheaper than Varilux Panamic Stylis 1.67.

Varilux Panamic Airwear is polycarbonate, sin't it? What is 1.6/42 of Rodenstcok Impression ILT XS 1.6/42 stands for. Is it polycarbonate category?

I like that. Can you tell me what 1.6/42 stands for?

42 is the ABBE value which is a measure of dispersion. because it is actually an inverse function, the higher the value, the better the lens, the lower the number, the more the colours fringe, or split up - remember that experement with a wedge of glass in Physics - which makes a spectrum - well thats what we try to avoid, and ABBE is a measure of it

**amanda** · 12-17-2005, 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=QDO1]

Originally Posted by amanda

What's 42 stands for? 1.6 irfers to index of lens, right?

42 is the ABBE value which is a measure of dispersion. because it is actually an inverse function, the higher the value, the better the lens, the lower the number, the more the colours fringe, or split up - remember that experement with a wedge of glass in Physics - which makes a spectrum - well thats what we try to avoid, and ABBE is a measure of it

Thanks.