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    Hi-index Progressives in Brown Transitions?

    Are there any BROWN transitions available for high-index (1.67 or so) premium-brand progressives (in canada)?

    If so, does that depend on the vendor and/or lab?

    Thanks!

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    seiko genious wing is available in 1.67, transitions, not sure about canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiBunny
    Are there any BROWN transitions available for high-index (1.67 or so) premium-brand progressives (in canada)?

    If so, does that depend on the vendor and/or lab?

    Thanks!
    Yes, pretty much all high index transitions have it now. With Transitions NG it was mostly grey, but now that Transitions V is out it is available in both colours. Here are a few off the top of my head:

    - Comfort
    - Ellipse
    - Ovation
    - Seiko
    - Panamic
    - Ipseo
    - Nikon i

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life
    Yes, pretty much all high index transitions have it now. With Transitions NG it was mostly grey, but now that Transitions V is out it is available in both colours. Here are a few off the top of my head:

    - Comfort
    - Ellipse
    - Ovation
    - Seiko
    - Panamic
    - Ipseo
    - Nikon i
    are they all availible in 1.67... I would be surprised

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    Quote Originally Posted by QDO1
    are they all availible in 1.67... I would be surprised
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life
    Yes, pretty much all high index transitions have it now. With Transitions NG it was mostly grey, but now that Transitions V is out it is available in both colours. Here are a few off the top of my head:

    - Comfort
    - Ellipse
    - Ovation
    - Seiko
    - Panamic
    - Ipseo
    - Nikon i
    Thanks!
    So not the german-based companies, like zeiss or rodenstock??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiBunny
    Thanks!
    So not the german-based companies, like zeiss or rodenstock??
    I think Zeiss has it with either their brevity and/or gradal top. I did not name them, because I did not know.

    Either way there is a lot of selection.

    Oh ya, I also think is it available in Sola One. The first ones I named I knew forsure

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiBunny
    Thanks!
    So not the german-based companies, like zeiss or rodenstock??
    Rodenstock doesn't use Transition's technology.
    "It's not impossible. I used to bull's-eye womp rats in my T-16 back home."


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    Anyone know if Zeiss Gradal Tops are indeed available in Brown Transitions???
    When i ordered, they said yes brown, but i actually received gray.
    Now the shop says grey is better and they dont come in brown anyway so cannot redo in brown.
    Not impressed.

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    http://www.transitions.com/transitio...il_FNL_ENG.pdf

    there is the list. The gradal top in 1.67 is only available in grey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life
    http://www.transitions.com/transitio...il_FNL_ENG.pdf

    there is the list. The gradal top in 1.67 is only available in grey.
    Thank you for-life, hehe ... i *hate* grey
    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi
    Rodenstock doesn't use Transition's technology.
    Ok, but do Life 2 have any photochromic technology available? Brown tint?

    Thanks, all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiBunny
    Thank you for-life, hehe ... i *hate* grey

    Ok, but do Life 2 have any photochromic technology available? Brown tint?

    Thanks, all!
    There are several good choices. Why not pick them?

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    Cripes I phoned zeiss in toronto myself and asked them...
    They are not supposed to talk to consumers, but makes exceptions because "most opticians are dumb lazy or useless" (quote from zeiss)
    YES zeiss progressives ARE indeed available in brown transitions.
    My optician is wrong and/or lying.
    If i was as poor at my job as my optician, she'd have holes in her head from my haphazard dental work. Nuff said. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiBunny
    Cripes I phoned zeiss in toronto myself and asked them...
    They are not supposed to talk to consumers, but makes exceptions because "most opticians are dumb lazy or useless" (quote from zeiss)
    YES zeiss progressives ARE indeed available in brown transitions.
    My optician is wrong and/or lying.
    If i was as poor at my job as my optician, she'd have holes in her head from my haphazard dental work. Nuff said. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
    The progressives are. But is it available in 1.67?

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    Quote Originally Posted by For-Life
    The progressives are. But is it available in 1.67?
    Good question from a bright professional.
    I dunno and my optician sure as heck dunno.
    Guess i'll phone zeiss again. Hehe.

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    According to their website and the rep who was at my office yesterday, 1.67 currently only is avaiable in grey. 1.5 plastic is what comes in brown.

    Life RX at least here in the US is only available in grey as well

    Cassandra (who prefers brown)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubilee
    According to their website and the rep who was at my office yesterday, 1.67 currently only is avaiable in grey. 1.5 plastic is what comes in brown.

    Cassandra (who prefers brown)
    In fact, both the Zeiss Gradal Top and Breviity ARE indeed available in Brown Transitions for Index 1.67
    Source: Carl Zeiss Optical Inc direct: 800-268-6489

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jubilee
    According to their website and the rep who was at my office yesterday, 1.67 currently only is avaiable in grey. 1.5 plastic is what comes in brown.

    Life RX at least here in the US is only available in grey as well

    Cassandra (who prefers brown)
    In the U.S., the only 1.67 Trans Brown PAL is the Seiko Proceed II. I've attached the page from the Transitions brochure, in case you're really curious. I'd link to the PDF on Transitions' site like Jedi did, but I couldn't find the most recent U.S. chart. My copy here is from around April, I think.

    Sorry for the small size, the original is about four times as big.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Resize of Resize of Resize of Transitions Availability 2005_img_6.jpg  

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    I am wondering if this is for Canada and UK then.. Cause no one from the rep, to their certified lab, to their website, and transitions website lists a brown.


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    That's definitely the U.S. availability--I'm expecting one to be in my hands tomorrow, or I'm going to have a grumpy patient. What I found interesting was the difference in U.S. and Canadian markets--they have way more than we do in brown!

    And as King said in the second post:

    seiko genious wing is available in 1.67, transitions, not sure about canada
    Probably the same lens--I'm guessing the "Genius Wing" is what we call the "Proceed II Short" over here.

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    Transitions®V with esp 1.67 in Brown

    Our Canadian team is updating their dispensing guide.
    Here is the current list of PALS available in BROWN 1.67
    Essilor Ovation® Thin&Lite® 1.67, Nikon Presio i 1.67, Varilux Comfort® Thin&Lite® 1.67, Varilux® Ellipse™ Thin&Lite® 1.67, Varilux® Ipseo™ Thin&Lite® 1.67, Varilux® Panamic® Thin&Lite® 1.67, Seiko 1.67 Proceed®II SHORT, Seiko 1.67 Proceed® III

    and here are the PALS in GRAY 1.67
    AO Easy HD 1.67 w/Teflon® EasyCare, Carl Zeiss 1.67 Gradal®Top, SOLAOne™ HD 1.67 w/Teflon® EasyCare, Essilor Ovation® Thin&Lite® 1.67, Nikon Presio 1.67,
    Varilux Comfort® Thin&Lite® 1.67, Varilux® Ellipse™ Thin&Lite® 1.67,
    Varilux® Ipseo™ Thin&Lite® 1.67, Varilux® Panamic® Thin&Lite® 1.67,
    Seiko 1.67 Proceed®, Seiko 1.67 Proceed®II SHORT, Seiko 1.67 Proceed® III,
    Shamir Genesis™ Hi-Index Superlite™ 1.67
    I believe some of the confusion with Carl Zeiss is they offer 1.67 brown in Europe. Sometimes products offered in Europe but not North America find a way into Canada.
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    Varilux Panamic Stylis 1.67 Tran5 Clizal Alize
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Schafer
    I believe some of the confusion with Carl Zeiss is they offer 1.67 brown in Europe. Sometimes products offered in Europe but not North America find a way into Canada.
    Jim
    Indeed these are in canada. Hehe, usually i have to go shop to the US in Buffalo to get better product selection than in canada! For once, we have a product available in canada not sold in the US (besides legal pot, hehe!)

    Folks, I am wearing a new pair of Brown Transitions in a Zeiss Gradal Top 1.67 progressive lense.
    I purchased these 3 weeks ago in Toronto (btw gray sucks).

    They are fabulous - both the transitions and the lens.

    My adapt time was virtually zero... so easy that when i first put them on, I said to the optician, "oh-oh they're just single vision". hehe. True story. I guess i was expecting distortion or dizziness or something, but i had none of that. Of course being a +1 Add they're quite mild.

    They do make a difference for reading. The reading area is adequate but not very large (B-height is 30mm, fitting=19mm ... we subtracted 1 mm while fitting like many here advise and I'm glad i did so)

    Glad i went for a premium lens... My friend got silhouette frames with a seiko lens in +1 Add and hers suck... but it might be fitting, she thinks her fitting is too high... again i'm glad i got some advice on this board with which to work with my optician.

    A very satisfying purchase for me. Thanks to all!

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    Skibunny you would be surprised at the amount of optical products that hit Canada before the US.

    Actually, if companies were smart they would use Canada as a test market over the US, because it is less riskier due to size.

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    Wave Hard test of premium PALs in Thailand

    We have Advance Progressive Addition Lenses Club (APC) in Thailand for hard test of premium PALs in Thailand.

    Last month we test Hoyalux iD 1.6 vs Rodenstock Impression ILT 1.6 vs Rodenstock Impression ILT 1.6 vs Tokai BS 13 vs Varilux Ipseo ( All of them are progressive back surface ).

    Our wearer are our father and we test in 5 period like , 1 week , 1 months , 3 months , 6 months and 9 months.

    The detail of hard test is
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    After test , we will report to company of thses PALs and report in our webboard at www.apcthai.com in Thai and we will have International webboard on 2006.

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