Hoya Wide Eyas or Varilux Panamic?

**Irving** · 10-14-2005, 04:19 PM

I've been using Progressive lenses for about a year. I had a pair of Varilux Panamics until yesterday, when I accidentally dropped them. I've been looking into a new pair, and find that there is a big difference in price between the Hoya Wide Eyas 1.5, and the Varilux Panamic ormex 1.56...about 175€ here in Spain! I was happy with the Varilux lense. I say lense since I only use 1 progressive lense, since my left eye doesn't see much, due to optic nerve damage since birth. My prescription is the following:

OD: +0'00ESF -3 CIL 165º Ad +'50

OS: neutral

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

**QDO1** · 10-16-2005, 03:21 PM

Forget the price difference. You need a professional Dispenser to go through the pros and cons of the specific designs, with reference to your prescription, ocular history, occupation, lifestyle, and frame choice. If they are not talking to you in these terms, then you are in the wrong practice

**HarryChiling** · 10-18-2005, 12:43 AM

I personally enjoy fitting the Varilux lenses they are premium lenses and have a low rate of non adapt. Usuallly I would recommend that you talk to your optician and answer some lifestyle questions to help determine the best lense for your needs, however if you have worn Varilux lenses and like dthem in the past then I would see no point in changing lens designs.

**jbiggs114** · 10-18-2005, 07:46 PM

Hoya Wide, Hoya ECP and Hoya CD! I am a Lab Rep and once a month I sit down and do all of the lense returns that we have rec'd back from opticians. I personally do this myself so I am able to see the exact numbers on returns and know what i should be out there telling the opticians about. As we all know every lense rep. coming through the door has the best! LOL! As a Lab Rep, I sell a variety of progressives and know that Hoya lenses are seldom returned. Add the Hoya Super HiVision and you will not go wrong. Try them, Hoya will stand behind their product.

**Suzenne** · 10-19-2005, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by QDO1

Forget the price difference. You need a professional Dispenser to go through the pros and cons of the specific designs, with reference to your prescription, ocular history, occupation, lifestyle, and frame choice. If they are not talking to you in these terms, then you are in the wrong practice

Does that means that one should go to a place where the dispenser can dispense any any line of any brand. I say that because a place I called only does Varilux and nothing else.

**Suzenne** · 10-19-2005, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by jbiggs114

Hoya Wide, Hoya ECP and Hoya CD! I am a Lab Rep and once a month I sit down and do all of the lense returns that we have rec'd back from opticians. I personally do this myself so I am able to see the exact numbers on returns and know what i should be out there telling the opticians about. As we all know every lense rep. coming through the door has the best! LOL! As a Lab Rep, I sell a variety of progressives and know that Hoya lenses are seldom returned. Add the Hoya Super HiVision and you will not go wrong. Try them, Hoya will stand behind their product.

I just saw someone saying there is differences between Essilor's Varilux products and Sola, Hoya, Rodenstock, menaig that variliz is just betteenn compared to these.

**jbiggs114** · 10-19-2005, 04:57 PM

The place you are going told you that because they probably support Essilor which makes the varilux lense. This may be the only line they carry. You need an optician that will educate you and sell you what is best for you rather than one that decides which lense to use based on cost, perks, habit etc. Most opticians are great, just don't choose a dispenser that was working the drive-through at Mcdonalds last week and dispensing glasses this week. In some states this happens.

**amanda** · 10-20-2005, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by jbiggs114

The place you are going told you that because they probably support Essilor which makes the varilux lense. This may be the only line they carry. You need an optician that will educate you and sell you what is best for you rather than one that decides which lense to use based on cost, perks, habit etc. Most opticians are great, just don't choose a dispenser that was working the drive-through at Mcdonalds last week and dispensing glasses this week. In some states this happens.

Thanks.

**Bobie** · 12-01-2005, 05:52 AM

Dear Irving ,

You have to going for Free Form PALs and my suggestion are follow the budget from the best to the economic at below ;

1. Varilux Ipseo

2. Rodenstock Impression ILT

I am not recommended Hoyalux iD in your case , because the quality of vision , and vision field of Impression ILT are much better than iD and the price about the same.