Do you think high schools should give condoms to students? I think it promotes being sexually active and is more dangerous. (Topic on Dr Phil today)
Do you think high schools should give condoms to students? I think it promotes being sexually active and is more dangerous. (Topic on Dr Phil today)
I think, remembering on my high school years, that those particular students will have sex whether you have condoms or not. I know people who got pregnant in high school.
I do not think the condom pushes sex. I think people push sex.
Where were these people when I was in school!! We had condoms but hardly ever needed themOriginally Posted by For-Life
I think I've had more dry-rot in my wallet than I've ever used!!:oOriginally Posted by OPTIDONN
Paul:cheers:
I understand you can get condoms in any convenience store or gas station vending machine. I don't think schools should provide the condoms, but they should provide education on the hazards of unprotected sex.
My experience is the argument for abstinence and no sex education evaporates pretty quickly once people have children in their teens! You want to bet on piety versus hormones with teenagers, have at it. Good luck with that grandparenting thing.
The problem is it it feels good, they are not going to stop. If you can stop a few unwanted births/abortions then we should.
Paul:cheers:
High school is too late. They should be accessable to students in junior high as well. Restricting access to condoms is not going to stop kids from having sex, it will increase teen pregnancy and transmission of STD's. People need to realize that open communication about sex does not encourage teens to have sex, it educates them. Parents who feel that giving the "talk" is uncomfortable, should think about how uncomfortable being a grandparent at 35 is or what it feels like to bury a child who gets AIDS.
So you would rather educate teens to have "safe sex" than educate them to abstain? Of course giving a condom to a teen encourages sex. Is there a difference between that and handing out crack pipes with the advice "don't do drugs?"Originally Posted by Jedi
I don't think crack pipes make doing crack any safer.Originally Posted by Chairtime
Educating students to abstain and educating students to practice safe sex when they decide not to abstain any longer aren't mutually exclusive. The either abstinance or safe sex arguement is falacious. As is the arguement that talking about safe sex encourages sexual behavior. Kids are gonna **** if they want to regardless of what you tell them in school, if you put the fear of AIDS, herpes and warts into them they're a lot more likely to abstain or at least practice safe sex. If you're so concerned about not having your kids ****ing then you'd best start educating them on the dangers of not abstaining when they're little (say, starting at 8 or 10), if you leave it up to JR and SR highschools then you've already lost the battle.
Students are not walking around using crack (well most aren't).Originally Posted by Chairtime
Students are walking around having sex.
You think someone telling them not to have sex is going to work? That is like putting a cookie in front of a five year old and telling them not to eat it.
Now if that five year old does not eat the cookie great, but what are the chances that he or she will? In that case, the cookie should be as safe as possible.
It's hard to smoke crack without a pipe, it's quite easy to have sex without a condom. I don't think the issue is as black and white as abstain or have safe sex. Kids need to be educated on both. And if they just so happen to disobey Ma and Pa's wishes (imagine a kid doing that) then at least they can be safe or safer.Originally Posted by Chairtime
I am going to veer a bit off topic here. I think schools should stay the heck out of the providing birth control thing. I agree that handing a kid a condom almost gives them permission. I would prefer that my kids abstain but I am realistic. And yes, if they are going to be little immoral idiots I would rather have them use a condom. I really have a larger problem with the idea that a school can without my permission give my minor child a form of birth control. It's a short step from that to them driving our daughters to Planned Paretnhood (first for birth control pill and then who knows what) I know, I know it sounds like I am being a bit paranoid but since there is currently legislation afoot to enable minor girls to get an abortion without parent notification it really isn't that big a stretch. I find it interesting that people have a cow about my son saying under God in the pledge at school but it's ok to hand him a Trojan and show him how to put it on ?????
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Agreed, kids do it anyway, far better they don't ruin their lives by having kids while they themselves are still kids. I also personally know several girls who had kids at 15/16 and it's not done them any favours.Originally Posted by For-Life
it encourages immoralityOriginally Posted by Chairtime
Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what's right.Originally Posted by Graduate
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I don’t mind giving public school children Ritalin, condoms, abortions or baby sitting services. What I do object to is having to pay for these programs out of my pocket.
Originally Posted by rbaker
I think I have to say I agree. Acessibility would be fine, I just wouldn't want to pay for it.
edit - reasoning:
Personal life choices sauch as birth control aren't, in my opinion, to be funded publicly
Last edited by Alvaro Cordova; 10-14-2005 at 06:35 PM.
Opticiansfriend.com guy.
Originally Posted by rbaker
We're going to pay, either way.Originally Posted by theDude
You can pay for condoms
OR
you can pay for the healthcare of an infected teen, abortion, delivery of baby, raising said child, daycare for said child, etc.
Whether by government programs or charity, these things get paid for.
Or you could let them die.
I think the best return on your invested dollar would be condoms.
To paraphrase rbaker -
Trojan...
Originally Posted by rbaker
...Just ask me...
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