optician unions

[ncoptician]

Not funny at all................if you can't make any money as optician ..............you for sure won't as a prostitute.

Why?????????????

Because you can't sell yourself

You need to check yourself chris!
I make PLENTY of good money in THIS profession as an Optician. Im proud of what I do, all I have accomplished and look forward to accomplishing. Not sure how you are interpreting my post but I thought what Dick wrote was funny and was making a joke in return...NOTHING MORE!!! You know nothing about me or my abilities/salesmanship but you can come to a conclusion like this? If you want to be a jerk, make foolish comments, and take this to a personal level... go right ahead but I will not stoop to that kind of childish behavior.

[rep]

how some people get so stuck in a rut, that they are not making any money and they can't make a living, yada yada yada............ What a pity party.

Pssssssttt. The secret is to:

Reinvent yourself !!!!!!

I have had to do it numerous times in my life. Others are doing it too.

After a college degree, I was an assistant controller for a major bank. After a number of years I decided I didn't like accounting all that much and I reinventied myself and joined my family's optical business, and started a contact lens company to boot. After many years, I reinvented my self again and became executive director of a national opticianry organization. I didn't like that very much, so I resigned, went back home and reinvented myself again as regional manage for Lux. I moved down to a great rep territory position because I wanted a little different life style which I have had until recently.

I have just reinvented myself again. Within the last two months I have accepted a promotion as a Regional Rep in Lux's newly formed Luxury/Fashion Division.

Every time I had to prepare myself for my new position, before I got the position and had to prove to the company or organization (through my track record ) I was the best possible candidate for the position, when it became available. Once I got the position, I have had to continue to reinvent myself.

Currently, I am absorbing every bit of industry knowledge regarding the luxury/fashion side of the wholesale frame industry. I am rereading sales training books, tapes, CD's I have accumulated through the years. I am studying the fashion industry and learning who the top tier designers are and what they companies are all about. I am looking at different optical models for store design (mass merchandising displays vs fine department store displays). I am researching how merchandising and marketing combined with store design has changed over the last few years and what has succeded. My goal is to develop the best models for Luxury/Fashion for my accounts, who are hounding me for this type of information already. It's optical, but it's a whole differnt optical. However the background is education and opticianry.

I am loving every minute of it, and hope I can do this the rest of my optical/sales career.

Cassandra too, is doing the right thing - working in the industry - while she is preparing for the future. If she targets what she wants, plans, prepares herself, works hard in entry level positions and moves up through the ranks during her career, she can be anything she wants to be.

Congratulation to her.

Now don't tell me it cant be done. You just have to have the desire to do it.

Rep

[Chris Ryser]

You need to check yourself chris!
If you want to be a jerk, make foolish comments, and take this to a personal level... go right ahead but I will not stoop to that kind of childish behavior.

This is a forum...............not a personal level affair...............you make a comment..........I make a comment.............you feel insulted because you dont like the answer by someone else................there is nothing personal here.

[ncoptician]

This is a forum...............not a personal level affair...............you make a comment..........I make a comment.............you feel insulted because you dont like the answer by someone else................there is nothing personal here.

Yes this is a forum where people are free to express their opinions... good or bad, but you took it upon yourself to make a personal attack on me that had nothing to do with the issue at hand.
I did nothing to provoke your foolish behavior. If you would care to look back and read...I did not even start the thread and was not the one whining or complaining about money issues.
You are supposed to be a well educated proffesional...act like one!
You can choose to be respectful and professional with your comments or you can choose to be a jerk. You chose the latter.
You chose to make the reply above instead of being a man and admitting your mistake and/or offering an appology!
You chose to make an insulting comment to me... not even knowing who I am or what I'm about...and then wonder why I took it personally?!!?
So keep on making your comments, posts, and pimping your web site and products on this forum (that I didn't think was allowed) and if we should ever meet in person at a conference, exhibit, convention or expo show...you will get to know me on a personal basis. Then you will have a reason to talk all the smack about me you want to.
This is the last I care to discuss on this matter.

[Chris Ryser]

You are supposed to be a well educated proffesional...act like one!
You can choose to be respectful and professional with your comments or you can choose to be a jerk. You chose the latter.

So keep on making your comments, posts, and pimping your web site and ...................is the last I care to discuss on this matter.

I am glad you said it all and the matter is closed.

[MassOptician]

In this market any competent, knowledgeable optician is worth his weight in gold....the only opticians in need of a union are the inept, unskilled opticians that somehow slipped through the cracks and got licensed....Is this you six lucky??? trying to protect your personal limits with a union??? besides, you work for yourself, how would that union work???

Sixlucky, think before you speak, we all read your mundane, inept babblings on here....grow up or prove you are one of the best!!!

Does any one know of any optician/optical unions in the US

[Alvaro Cordova]

Does any one know of any optician/optical unions in the US

I'm actually trying to form something akin to a union in NJ. I consider my site to be a union without the union dues. My desire and goal is to organize NJ opticians by letting them know what each makes in anonymous polls. In other words, opticians will know what to ask for when entering a position. Many opticians have been ripped off. I find that the only way to combat this is to make this information available so that opticians become knowledgable to what people are paying. The added advantage is that should any shenanigans happen it would be easy to alert opticians to it.

[sixlucky]

I think that is terrific to poll opticians in NJ....Maybe you could also conduct a poll in massachusetts. The opticians are being taken advantage here as well. I know of many locations that do not have licenses on the premises...THE LICENSED PEOPLE ARE GETTING SCREWED.......

[rbaker]

The Dude sayeth:

“I consider my site to be a union without the union dues.”

Well Dude, if money is the mothers milk of politics it certainly is of unions as well. If you want to influence anyone in a meaningful manner you had better start amassing some funds.

Here is what’s going to happen. After spending a bunch of your own money and time and finding no one really wants to hear what you have to say your altruism will be replaced by resentments which lead to dyspepsia.

I don’t want to rain on you parade but the forecast is for monsoons.

And then, sixlucky pipes up:

“Maybe you could also conduct a poll in massachusetts.”

As if the poor old Dude isn’t busy enough already. You want him to schlep up to Massachusetts and take a poll for you. Why don’t you go down to New Jersey and give him a hand squaring away that State and then you can both take care of the shenanigans in Massachusetts.

[Alvaro Cordova]

The Dude sayeth:

“I consider my site to be a union without the union dues.”

Well Dude, if money is the mothers milk of politics it certainly is of unions as well. If you want to influence anyone in a meaningful manner you had better start amassing some funds.

Here is what’s going to happen. After spending a bunch of your own money and time and finding no one really wants to hear what you have to say your altruism will be replaced by resentments which lead to dyspepsia.

I don’t want to rain on you parade but the forecast is for monsoons.

And then, sixlucky pipes up:

“Maybe you could also conduct a poll in massachusetts.”

As if the poor old Dude isn’t busy enough already. You want him to schlep up to Massachusetts and take a poll for you. Why don’t you go down to New Jersey and give him a hand squaring away that State and then you can both take care of the shenanigans in Massachusetts.

True, lobbying will cost money, but I intend (it still isn't an issue if no one does either) this site to be funded by advertising. My site isn't just about "unionizing." I did this site first and foremost for myself. I want to remeber everything I learned in school and to a certain extent I wish I had a site to go to that would cover the topics related to Opticianry while at school. So even if I'm the only one, I made something and am very proud of it. It's something that I intend to use often (the iseikonic lens calc especially). The reason I call it "a union without the dues" is because I intend to post issues that deal with opticianry. For example many times what is needed is pressure. By helping opticians write to their rep, they can better understand the issue they face. I'm very pro opticianry and I support the local organization OANJ and urge others to do so as well. Another way I intend to help myself and other opticians is by letting them know how much money different groups (corporate, management, private, owner) make. This can level the playing field somewhat. I remain optimistic. I have, without the use of any advertising, signed up 30 or so members. I don't know how they found me, but they did. I know a few are from here (optiboard), but there are some in NJ who have heard of this through word of mouth. Bottomline, I'm having fun too. That's the key I feel. I'm not just doing this out of a complete sense of altruism. I'm not the Dalai Lama. I believe others can benefit without much effort on my part. The programs I have written are for myself as well. I'm not just the founder, I'm also a client to borrow the phrase from hair club for men.

[sixlucky]

board is to quiet,,,,whats everyones thoughts