At your age dont try new venture in the optical..........................
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Originally Posted by Mbam
Pun intended, as a middle aged (hate to admit it) man that has been wearing glasses for over 50 years,Thanks,
MB
Here is my solid advice.
You have retired to Florida, have worn glasses for 50 years. You did not state that have been wearing regular bifocals or you are using progressive lenses.
In the case you did NOT wear progressives, do NOT purchase any. You probably have the highest addition possible, which makes the prrogressive parr and the reading section very small comapared to regular bifocals you have been wearing. On top of it tou will have at least 30% distortion to the sides. Opticians have a tendency to push people towards the progressive lenses when they should not.
If you have been wearing them happily before..........go ahead and get them.
SLAMMING.........and maybe not
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Originally Posted by shellrob
Geez Chris....any time you get to SLAM progressives and you're happy right? It's getting tiresome.
Progressives are fine and dandy...................but everything in this world has its place.
Progressives have no place on somebodies nose that has worn regular bifocals for years, unless they have absolutely no feeling for anything and can wear shoes that are too small and pants that are too long.
I still want to remind you that there was a time when ESSILOR gave courses to opticians teaching them (I attended them)...........to whom to sell and to whom NOT to sell progressives.
If it is getting tiresome for you to hear the facts and declaring them as SLAMMING, I am sorry, that you have not yet learned the facts and limits of products that you like to sell...................for a lot more than you can get for a basic product that fits the case much better.
During my time a an optician in a store I sold hundreds of pais of progressive lenses and had not one coming back because of a non adapt.
All this because I knew to whom to sell them and to whom not to sell them.
Swear By Progressives....................
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Originally Posted by Rich
Hi Chris:
I think your so off base with warnings to avoid progressives. I've found that the people I LEAST expect to succeed with progressives often take to them instantly. ..............
And in my office we pass along the manufacturers non-adapt guarantee.
I swear by progressives, and so do millions of others.
Rich
Hi Rich, I will not repeat what I said on above post. There are post's written by Pete Hamlin right here on the Optiboard that state the same arguments I brought forward. When you have time go and look for them. As the largest manufacturers spokesman I assume he sticks to the facts.
I did not state in above post that at the time I was in the retail selling progressives.............."there was no such thing as manufacturers non-adapt guarantee" so we had to be very carefull and make sure the customer was a good case for the product.
Also the lenses sold to the opticians at a comparatively much lower price at the time. I guess you pay already for the second pair at the purchase of the first one.
I am glad that you swear by progressives, but don't forget that only 47% of multifocal wearers are using progressives in the USA. Maybe you could make a few more dollars by also catering to the other 53%.
Ceramic wheel generation..............................
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Originally Posted by CME4SPECS
Chris, that statement about NO non adapts was a little far fetched don't you think? That Essilor class must have been at the same seminar that they were reviewing how to replace the belt on that ceramic stone wheel!
Funny you saying that. I got paid by ESSILOR in 1954 to make a 3 month market study throughout Canada to find out, among others, how well progressives would be doing in all the different parts of the country. Showing the lenses to hundreds of optician the result was, that they would never ever sell a lens with that much distortion on it.
Furthermore.............are you still tinting your lenses with a slow working, ancient smelly, toxic fumes emitting dinosaur of a tinting unit? If your answer is yes..........you also belong to the mental ceramic wheel generation.
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Referral to a good South Florida optician
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Originally Posted by Mbam
This time what I am looking for is an optician in the Fort Lauderdale / Boca Raton area that is really up to speed on the latest in progressives. I have pretty severe astigmatism, -4.00 -1.5 and -2.5 -4.75 and am very sensitive to axis.
Thanks,
MB
MB,
Call Joe Black (past president of the Florida state society) at Eye Associates of Boca Raton (561) 391-8300.
Tell Joe that Gil Weber referred you. Joe knows his stuff. ;)
Good luck.
Chris was right in his warning.
Fact is, the higher the person's add the more unwanted cylinder will be present. With high astigmatic correction in the lens on the back side to begin with, you're asking for trouble.
What I usually do is I judge how motivated the person is to trying out PALs. I never talk anyone into it, and I've been pretty successful with it. If you have to explain it to to a patient and they still feel "iffy" about it, walk away form the PAL and keep them in what they are wearing. If they bring it up, It's our duty to explain how the lens works. I never draw the hourglass on a piece of paper, I think it cheapens the technology.
The only lens I personally hate is a blended round. I talk my patients out of that all the time. These folks I find, love a PAL as soon as they try it.
Plfo............................
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Originally Posted by
OpticianVlad
What I usually do is I judge how motivated the person is to trying out PALs. I never talk anyone into it, and I've been pretty successful with it. If you have to explain it to to a patient and they still feel "iffy" about it, walk away form the PAL and keep them in what they are wearing. If they bring it up, It's our duty to explain how the lens works.
Above is all that the PLFO opticians (PLFO = progressive lens fanatics only) should take at heart.