Cost of PC board for Weco 430 edger??

[Win C]

Hi, recently had some problem with my edging maching (weco 430). The PC board has to be changed and it cost me aprox US$3400 :drop: just for changing the PC board of the edger.

Does anyone knows how much does it cost to change the PC board of an edger in the range of this weco 430 or newer edging machines?

Thanks

[gemstone]

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[HarryChiling]

Now take the old one to a TESST or another carrer school that deals with electronics and watch them fix it for around $20.00

[Win C]

Now take the old one to a TESST or another carrer school that deals with electronics and watch them fix it for around $20.00

Has anyone encountered stuff like this before?
My edging machine was working fine and one day after tracing the frame, the frame data would not register on the main edger. The tech then took the edger away for two days and came back telling me the pc board for the edger was defective and was changed.

My technician did not give me any report what was wrong. I wasn't returned the defective pc board either. Should I get a detailed report of what went wrong and the old pc board?

Even if i get the old pc board back and bring to a electronics technician, how are they going to check what went wrong?

Anyone with weco machines care to comment on how much they charge for parts? Are they generally expensive?

[HarryChiling]

At $3400 I would assume that the board was replaced and not just repaired, which means yes they should provide you with the old board just ask. The board is comprised of chips and resistors, and other such electronics components which are common to people working with electronics. I had an old Briot 5000 that I had kept alive with a handy pen from radio shack that restores leads on a circuit board. With a voltimeter and my trusty pen I would fix corroded leads all the time, matter of fact the boss only replaced the machine because he wanted something new, not because it wouldn't work.

[OpticLabRat]

At $3400 I would assume that the board was replaced and not just repaired, which means yes they should provide you with the old board just ask. The board is comprised of chips and resistors, and other such electronics components which are common to people working with electronics. I had an old Briot 5000 that I had kept alive with a handy pen from radio shack that restores leads on a circuit board. With a voltimeter and my trusty pen I would fix corroded leads all the time, matter of fact the boss only replaced the machine because he wanted something new, not because it wouldn't work.

Thats awesome Harry!!!

I did a lot of similar things back in my lab days. You wouldnt believe what you can do with Freebond!!!:D


Win C,

Unfortunately, these things happen with all equipment that has circuit boards. You should see the boards on the most modern patternless edgers. They are very complex.
I would have given you your old board back or at least gave you a core credit to keep it. I have worked on boards for many hours before I found the problem. And I must admit that there were a couple times I never did find the real problem but replacing the board fixed the edger. Were you charged by the hour? Is there a detailed bill?
Also you say the tech "took it away" for two days. What was his shipping cost and labor time? Did he travel for a few hours to get to you? Dont forget the travel time to bring it back to you.
If that is a new board the price is probably right.

[HarryChiling]

Unfortunately, these things happen with all equipment that has circuit boards. You should see the boards on the most modern patternless edgers. They are very complex.


I have seen the ewer boards and wouldn't want to suggest even tryng to draw a new circuit on a bard with the circuits so tight.

I couldn't even imagine what you did with freebond, but I am sure it was pretty inventive. I kinda like the older systems for the vry same reason that you stated, the new boards are very comlex, whereas the older models were pretty simple to fix the board, we had a part on the briot 5000 that I once replaced with a bic pen shaft and it worked for 2 years with the pen shaft in there and when it finally broke I had a replacement pen shaft. $0.89 fix. Some of the newer equipment is flawed in the fact that there is too many unnecesary components inside. For example a $300.00 - $500.00 motor that opens the door to the edging chamber, unnecesary.

[Win C]

Hi, thanks everyone for their input.

I only got a bill that says "replacement of pc board'.

I am not sure wht is the practice over in the states. Do you guys get a detailed report of the problem in your invoice + all the charges like labour hours, transport charges etc?

[OpticLabRat]

Hi, thanks everyone for their input.

I only got a bill that says "replacement of pc board'.

I am not sure wht is the practice over in the states. Do you guys get a detailed report of the problem in your invoice + all the charges like labour hours, transport charges etc?

We give professional invoices that list everything we did on your repair.
We list the problem, solution, and detailed costs. I imagine all professional companys do the same.

[OpticLabRat]

Some of the newer equipment is flawed in the fact that there is too many unnecesary components inside. For example a $300.00 - $500.00 motor that opens the door to the edging chamber, unnecesary.

How about a sensor that compensates your sizing based on the temperature of the wheels?????:eek:

[gemstone]

Got to get that old part back too, or a core credit.

[HarryChiling]

How about a sensor that compensates your sizing based on the temperature of the wheels?????:eek:

And somehow the machine will still cut off every now and again. I'm telling you I worked on briot 5000 that seriously wouldn't quit. The thing cut the same size consistently, wheather you resized it or not it always cut on size at +0.5 and the thing ran that way for 4 years and before me it was about another 15 or more years old.

[Wecoman]

The cost of the new mainboard is about $2000,- (roughly) but then it needs to be put in the edger that is +/- 1,5 hour of work.
Then you need to restore the setting of your edger (from your diskette)
The the edger needs to be adjusted for grinding: size, client settings etc.
This is at best 4 or 5 hours work time (total).
The price you paid for collecting repairing and returning the edger may seem relatively high but is not too expensive.