toronto optician video

[fbim]

this guy has been on the news three times, his storefront is such an embarrassment to the profession
it seems obvious with great glasses and this segment, the college has no interest in enforcing the laws of the province and protecting the public
its frustrating for those obeying the rules ! any suggestions ?

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_6263.aspx

[Gary]

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[Golfnorth]

this guy has been on the news three times, his storefront is such an embarrassment to the profession
it seems obvious with great glasses and this segment, the college has no interest in enforcing the laws of the province and protecting the public
its frustrating for those obeying the rules ! any suggestions ?

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_6263.aspx
Actually our College is doing something about Mr.Klimmer. Phone the director or registrar and tell them that you'd like to lodge a formal complaint against him and see what they tell you.

Regards,
Golfnorth

[Excalibur]

Actually our College is doing something about Mr.Klimmer. Phone the director or registrar and tell them that you'd like to lodge a formal complaint against him and see what they tell you.

Regards,
Golfnorth

What is the College doing about this fellow?

[EyeFitWell]

I live in the US, but I keep checking this board for updates about this guy because he is so outrageous! I've worked for a couple of that "type" and I can't imagine where they get such a confidence to ignore the laws! I really hope he is served a big fat lesson.

[Golfnorth]

What is the College doing about this fellow?
Our College doesn't comment on any investigations it undertakes until something definitive comes out it. I can only offer the advice as previous, that is, to phone the executive director or registrar of our College and tell them that you'd like to lodge a formal complaint against Mr. Klimmer then see what they tell you.

Regards,
Golfnorth

[Gary]

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[tmorse]

Your advice to call the College is good and your statement that the College doesn't comment an investigations is also correct nor should they be expected to . I would also point out that no one has the right to lodge a complaint if it is based only on seeing that video. Complaints can and should only be lodged based on first hand , direct one on one dealings with the person that the complaint is to be lodged against . Anything else is only hearsay and 3rd hand and is not evidence of wrongdoing. It would be like asking for charges based on gossip. Complaints can only be based on facts .

Personally , if the College chose to investigate and do nothing in this case they might be doing exactly the right thing . Leave this mattter entirely to their discretion, unless you have actual facts that can be backed up in court .

This is good advice.:cheers:

[Dave Nelson]

The subject in the video could indeed be subject to College action based only on what appeared on the video. I'm not sure about Ontario, but the Health Professions Act in B.C. allows action to be taken against anyone who acts in an unprofessional and/or unethical manner. This can be difficult to define, and the process is complaint-driven.
In B.C, action was taken once against an optician for taking out newspaper advertisments indicating that all the opticians in his town were generally cheats and theives, except, of course, him. There is a duty, under the HPA, to respect the profession, and other registrants.

[Gary]

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[Dave Nelson]

There is a principle in law called "enabling legislation." It means the College cannot hand out speeding tickets because there is no legislation enabling them to do so. The police, however, have, through legislation, the power enabling them to do so. The College is enabled, via the Health Professions Act, to enforce standards and bylaws relating to the practice of opticianry. In B.C, only opticians are regulated by the College of Opticians, and they have no power to bring action against a non-registrant, other than via the court system. In effect, the College acts as an extension of the courts, but is only enabled to regulate registrants. Put another way, can you imagine optometrists having the power to regulate opticians? We are self-regulated, but have no power to regulate optometry. An optician, in his/her normal place of buisness is regulated by the College, whether they are selling sunglasses or even lens cleaner. We are not talking "crime" here, we are regulating a profession. If there is a crime, the regulatory board can act only within its mandate, say, disciplinary action for stealing might result in a license suspension for professional misconduct, while the courts may persue the matter as a criminal matter at the same time. The mandate of a college is to ensure the public is protected, firstly, and secondly, that they receive service from a person who has met minimum standards, receives continuing education, and delivers competent care. Many people do question the authority of the college to regulate. You may own a car, you may have paid cash for it, and it may be your pride and joy, but owning it doesn't excempt you from the rules and laws of the road. There are laws governing how and where you may drive, and there are laws that must be adhered to as a member of a regulated profession.